Re: Can't control Dell laptop fan anymore

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On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:51 PM Fulko Hew <fulko.hew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, 12:57 Chris Murphy, <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 9:39 AM Fulko Hew <fulko.hew@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> > It's been a bad week for me.
>> > First my disk drive died, and now I've replaced it
>> > and installed F33 (up from F26)
>> >
>> > After running it for a while it started running flaky,
>> > I hadn't installed gkrellm yet.
>> > When I did, I noticed that it was reporting a fan speed of 0 RPM.
>> > True, it wasn't spinning. Maybe it was overheating that that's why it was getting flaky.
>> >
>> > [I ran the Dell BIOS hardware test routines, and they spun up the
>> >  fan and reported no errors.]
>> >
>> > So I know the fan works, and presumably thats why the hw test
>> > spun it up and spun it down again.
>> > What I'd like to do is to manually control the fan and look at it's
>> > sensor directly (like the Dell hw test does), but I don't know how.
>> >
>> > Laptop is a Dell Inspiron 5567.
>> > I'm not sure where to go next.
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Here's a snippet from running 'sensors':
>> >
>> > $ sensors
>> > dell_smm-virtual-0
>> > Adapter: Virtual device
>> > Processor Fan:    0 RPM
>> > CPU:            +36.0°C
>> > Ambient:        +34.0°C
>> > SODIMM:         +34.0°C
>> > GPU:            +30.0°C
>> > ...
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>> Quite a lot of thermal management is split up into different areas:
>> CPU itself, ACPI, logic board firmware, kernel, and user space.
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>> I suggest making sure the logic board firmware is up to date as a first step.
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>> sensors isn't a default package. New in Fedora 33, thermald is
>> installed and enabled by default. I'd give that a chance to work (or
>> fail) on it's own without anything else competing. It's expected that
>> thermald improves thermal management, but at least to not do worse
>> than not using it. If the thermal behavior isn't correct with thermald
>> enabled in a default configuration, then the next test is to disable
>> thermald and see if the same behavior still happens. If that fixes the
>> problem, I suggest a thermald bug report. If it doesn't fix the
>> problem, then we need to look at a possible kernel regression.
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>> There are some user space tools that can directly manipulate fans if
>> none of the above works out of the box, but I'd consider that a
>> fallback
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> I'm not at the machine at the moment, but can you name some of those user space tools ?

lm_sensors is fairly generic I think, but I don't use it. There's
thinkfan and mbpfan, those are Thinkpad and Macbook specific I
suppose.


-- 
Chris Murphy
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