Re: X Org Server is abandonware

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On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 10:25 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
> I think it is simple, in my experience your assertions are right on
> the money.  They can't be bothered to learn it and/or they aren't
> good
> enough to learn it.  If it is difficult for them to learn and/or they
> cannot learn it then they are doomed to failure on the re-write as
> they simply aren't good enough developers to redo it .    Act like a
> developer: when your car runs badly, just melt it down and rebuild it
> from scratch, that must be easier than understanding how it is broken
> and fixing it.
> 
> Not sure how one believes if they cannot debug the last
> script/program
> they wrote (or someone else did) that the new script/program will be
> any different.   Developers seems to believe that all previous
> authors
> were incompetent and did things for no good reason and that they can
> do a significantly better job this time so want to start over.  Too
> many people have told me that unlike the past team that failed using
> a
> given process,this time we are going to do it the exact same way but
> we are going to be perfect and not have the same issues and not fail.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:04 AM Tim via users
> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 08:46 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > > One of the motivations for Wayland was that the X.Org was
> > > becoming
> > > unmaintainable and suffered from design choices that are no
> > > longer
> > > relevant.
> > 
> > Is it really unmaintainable, or is it that programmers just cannot
> > be
> > arsed to learn how to maintain someone else's code?
> > 
> > And how does one person determine that some features are no-longer
> > needed?  It's quite clear that in several years of Wayland being
> > around
> > that various features needed by people using X have yet to be
> > implemented.
> > 
> > This whole idea of "I can't work on this, let's throw it all out
> > and
> > start again" is just incompetence.  And you'll find several OS
> > projects
> > that have spent many years, repeatedly going through that process
> > and
> > never actually coming to any fruition because of it.
> > 
> > Don't let those people near the kernel code.
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > uname -rsvp
> > Linux 3.10.0-1127.19.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Aug 25 17:23:54 UTC
> > 2020 x86_64
> > 
> > Boilerplate:  All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically
> > deleted.
> > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing
> > list.
> > 
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