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On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 at 16:29, ITwrx <info@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 9/1/20 1:31 PM, PGNet Dev wrote:
> The devs seem amenable, but are vastly under-resourced IMO.  For my money, 
better Fedora support ==> more Redhat support contract adoption.
>
> But that's a corporate Redhat/IBM issue that they've yet to come to terms 
with and focus on.  Unless you're a bank, airline, government, etc :-/
it's funny you said that because i almost included something similar in
my original mail. At roughly a billion $ a quarter in gross
revenue(IIRC), i think Red Hat should double/triple down on Fedora and
CentOS. What would happen to RH revenue (down the line) if Fedora and
CentOS started to completely dominate market share for smaller
institutions? Why would enterprises use another OS/distro if all the
users, admins and devs only/mainly know Fedora/CentOS b/c that's what
they use at school and work. i.e. The Windows Effect. Fedora and CentOS
are doing a lot of things right (that's why i'm in the process of moving
to them for various things), but just imagine if it were all really well
funded, and got to all the people doing the work.

Open source is suffering from the growth in variety and complexity of both
hardware and software vastly greater than the growth in the number 
of developers.     

In this forum and others, a lot of time and effort goes to dealing with 
hardware support.   When you buy a macOS or Windows system, you
don't expect problems getting the hardware to work.  Linux on laptops 
often has issues with power management, graphics, touchpad, wifi, and 
sound.   RedHat and Lenovo Thinkpad Fedora Laptops
mentions the effort Lenovo made to get linux driver support.  

I assume a big part of the developer effort behind Fedora is 
consumed by the need to support a wide variety of hardware,
yet there are still many problems.    

I assume that many Fedora users work in a shop where RHEL 
or CentOS is used for "production" systems.   In happen to work
in a field (remote sensing) where you have many individual users
from governments or universities where Windows is the "enterprise
standard", but the software they need runs on macOS and linux.  
MacOS and Ubuntu are by far the most common platforms for 
small workgroups.   I expect this pattern can be found in other
fields.   

Both Microsoft and Apple have created problems for users
with windows backgrounds but who need linux applications.
Windows has had a string of problems with updates, while 
Apple's focus on security has created problems for users
whose past practices are now out of bounds.   Many of these
users come with a mindset that others will fix problems for them.
I've been involved with a number of remote-sensing workshops 
where we took a couple afternoons to introduce linux and some
command-line basics.   This helped the students with their 
remote sensing projects, and also proved helpful in modules
on numerical modelling.   

The linux community needs to encourage users to spend time
learning fundamentals, solving simple problems and making
useful bug reports.   

RedHat is going to do their thing.   If we want linux to prosper,
it is up to us to reverse the dynamics that currently have complexity
outstripping developer resources by doing everything we can to 
help ourselves and others use linux effectively.

--
George N. White III

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