On 2020-08-07 18:44, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:49 PM Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> On 2020-08-05 21:02, Tom H wrote: >>> Hopefully Todd, the OP, realized that you were implying that he >>> might not have "systemd-resolved" running... >> Hopefully.... >> >> I may be dense, but it seems to me there is no particular advantage >> to using resolvectl, or getent over the "ip route" command to learn >> the IP address of the gateway. For my $ those give too little info >> to understand how traffic may be routed. And that is what I am >> normally also wanting to know when looking at a gateway. But that >> may just be me. > The complaint was that the iproute tools spit out too much information. Oh, I thought the complaint was that nmcli, at least the command I used, gave too much info. Granted, I was giving a command which returned all the info I though the OP wanted. FWIW, I only use nmcli to create, edit, control connections/devices under the control of NetworkManager. I don't use, and wouldn't use, nmcli to search/determine how things are configured on a system I'm not familiar with. Each tool has some "drawbacks" unless you are aware of their use cases or have a clear understanding of what you need/want to know. For example, [egreshko@meimei ~]$ resolvectl query _gateway _gateway: 192.168.1.1 -- link: enp2s0 192.168.2.5 -- link: wlp4s0 2001:b030:112f::1 -- link: enp2s0 Returns a list of "default gateways". But, it doesn't tell you which will actually be used. [egreshko@meimei ~]$ ip -br -4 route show | grep default default via 192.168.1.1 dev enp2s0 proto static metric 100 default via 192.168.2.5 dev wlp4s0 proto dhcp metric 600 Tells one the same, but does have the metric so you know which route would be used first. But you can't, at least I've not found a way, to list both IPv4 and IPv6 routes with the same command. And even both of those, as written, don't show Host routes which also need a "gateway" but not one which is "default" netstat -rn is sorta fine for IPv4, but spits out too much for my taste with IPv6. I don't normally care about scope link info. It also has a Flag of U which can confuse since some docs say "route is up" and other documentation say "route is valid". It can lead some to think that it may mean the physical gateway device is "up" and working. It also lacks a metric....but I suppose most setups are rather straight-forward. I still prefer the "ip route" command because you know at a glance all devices being used, their associated IP address, and the routes along with their metric. Anyway, at the risk of offending some family members, all of this comes under the heading of "There is more than one way to skin a cat". :-) -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
