Re: OT: delaying postfix until/unless VPN is up/connected

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On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 10:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-03-24 04:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2020-03-24 at 03:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 2020-03-23 23:06, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > > > Yes, indeed. Can it be paused while VPN is not up? And btw, postfix is started via systemd but not VPN, that is, it is not started via systemd. 
> > > How about running postfix in a VM where the VPN is always up?
> > I do this occasionally. A small Fedora server installation is all you
> > need.
> > 
> > Though actually what I've wanted to do for a long time is "split
> > tunnelling", where some network connections go over the VPN and others
> > don't. This should be possible in theory using network namespaces (see
> > 'man ip-netns') but I've never managed to get it to work.
> > 
> 
> In looking at the man page I see:
> 
> For applications that are aware of network namespaces
> 
> and ask the question "What applications are aware of network namespaces"?

Clearly not enough of them ... Surely container systems handle this
kind of stuff (i.e. process isolation etc.) without the applications
having to be specially written, so one would hope that in time this
caveat would no longer be necessary.

poc
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