On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 at 18:52, John Mellor <john.mellor@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > You appear to be a long-time Gnome dev. I suppose I am. I'm also a principal engineer at Red Hat, working here for over a decade now. I wrote most of libdnf (originally called libzif, then libhif), most of PackageKit and have maintained a good chunk of the user-visible update framework in RHEL 6,7 and 8 and in Fedora. I was one of the original developers of AppStream and author of much of libappstream-glib. I wrote gnome-packagekit, and then wrote most of gnome-software a few years later. I have in-depth knowledge of all layers of the rpm-based update framework we use. Until very recently I've been the one who gets pinged by QA when it all breaks for some helpless user. > Please revisit the updater design decision instead of just hiding the problem under the rug. This is my last email to this thread. The Unix that you think you are using does not exist any more, I'm sorry to say. Please stop characterizing us as idiots who don't know what they are doing, when we have the stats and real-world experience on our side. Richard. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx