Tim (from my tag line): >> Next time your service provider asks you to reboot your equipment, >> ask them to reboot theirs, first. Bill: > Do you really want the service provider to reboot their equipment?! > :) After dealing with some alleged "tech support," sometimes you want to reboot the person. Actually my first ISP was really good, albeit expensive. If I dialled in, and nothing seemed to work, I'd note down the IP I'd been assigned, and send them an email about this when I did manage to log in. I'd get an email back acknowledging it, often saying they've checked on that piece of their gear, and that they'd given it a reboot (it's often the simplest thing to do, to unstick equipment). If you were having problems logging on, they'd ask you to dial a specific number, and they'd watch the login. Then they could tell you if your modem was faulty, needed different AT settings, or you'd mistyped your credentials. I suppose one reason that they were so good, is that before they became an ISP they were a computing consultancy firm. Unfortunately, they got bought out. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 5.0.16-100.fc28.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 14 18:22:28 UTC 2019 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Computers are like dentists. They have their uses, but they're both bloody pains. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx