On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 22:03 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 6 February 2019, Patrick O'Callaghan sent: > > It's a question of basic usability. When I want to type an > > "international" character, it would be nice to see how to do it > > without having to root around in keyboard files. Accents are easy as > > I use dead keys (áéíóúñ) but other things are harder, e.g. the > > Spanish upside-down question mark which I can never remember how to > > get. I'm frankly surprised that no-one seems to have brought this up > > before. > > I went with using the compose key, because of the lack of information > about which keys to use (as we're discussing - quick key show utility), > and I can usually figure out ways to type the usual culprits with the > compose key (because it picks on common typewriter symbols that look a > bit close to the accents you want to add to another character). > > e.g. hit compose c then comma produces ç > hit compose ? then ? produces ¿ Sure, except that now you only have to figure out which is the Compose key. This is not something I want to have to explain to a user, even if I can figure it out for myself if I read enough documentation. It's an absurd situation. (Note that Windows is if anything even worse. The only dead-key settings officially supported are for US keyboards and I still haven't figured out how to type ñ on Windows w/o having to resort to some weird ALT-NNN combination. Seriously, life is too short for this nonsense). > I'd seriously like to see a new style of keyboard which includes more > punctuation marks (dashes, proper quotes, different spaces, etc) on > dedicated keys. I'm not too fussed about that as inevitably no kb can include everything. What I want is for the magic combos to be *discoverable*. That's what the MacOS Key Viewer enables. poc _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx