Re: cups browser interface changes?

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On 12/6/18 2:33 PM, AV wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-12-06 at 19:23 +0000, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 12/6/18 10:21 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> 
>>> On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 17:42:22 +0100
>>> AV wrote:
>>>
>>>> Didn't there use to be a 'delete printer' option in the
>>>> 'Administration' drop down menu. 
>>>
>>> Depends on which Administration menu you are looking at :-).
>>> I just checked on my system, and there is a front page
>>> Administration item which includes "Manage Printers" which
>>> gets you to a list of printers and you can click on one
>>> to see the details of that printer and it also has
>>> an Administration menu which does have a delete item (pant,
>>> pant, wheeze...)
>>
>> I agree. Convoluted.
>>
>> 	1. Browse http://localhost:631
>> 	2. Click on the "Administration" tab
>> 	3. Click on the "Manage Printers" button under "Printers"
>> 	4. Click on the printer you're interested in
>> 	5. Click on the "Administration" dropdown menu in that menu
>> 	6. The "Delete Printer" option there (3rd item down for me)
>>
> 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 so far so good.
> 5 -> tried it but no menu appeared so 6 not possible.

The administration dropdown should be the rightmost box in the
status screen for the printer you selected in step 4. It should be
just to the right of the dropdown "Maintenance" box and should look
like "Administration v" (the "v" representing a downward pointing
arrow...sorry for the bad ASCII art).

> This concerns an Epson printer attached by usb cable to an iMac.
> I use it mostly for photo printing from MacOS (Mojave).
> 
> I wanted to test the quality of the Epson Linux print drivers
> under Fedora on my Linux PC. I did not have a long enough usb
> cable and I didn't want to lug around the PCs. As both PCs are
> attached to my router by usb cables I turned on the iMac and the
> printer and then managed to install the printer in Fedora using
> Cups. The print quality was not as good from Fedora as from MacOS
> so goodbye Epson drivers, no more printing from Fedora.
> 
> Could the problem at 5) have been some "Apple" quirk or because
> the printer was not any longer attached to Fedora or because I
> had forgotten about Cups and 'removed' the printer from Gnome menu
> and deleted drivers.

That's possible. In the status page at step 4, it should show how the
printer is (supposedly) connected to your system. If the "Connection"
bit has "dnssd:" in it, then it's typically a network (possibly
wireless) connection via Bonjour/Avahi. If it has "usb:" in it, it's a
direct USB connection, "hp:" indicates an HP JetDirect or hplip network
connection, etc.

If the printer shows up in CUPS, you SHOULD be able to delete that
connection. Note that this would ONLY affect the connection between the
Fedora machine and the printer, not the printer itself or any external
server it's connected to.

Now, if the printer is physically connected to the iMac, then the iMac
has to act as a print server (a.k.a. spooler) for the printer and you'd
need to have the iMac export the print service for the printer. Then you
would get Fedora to look for a "network printer" to use it. If the
printer has networking capabilities (e.g. wifi), then you should be able
to get at it directly over the network. Again, it'd be a network
printer, probably using dnssd (Bonjour/Avahi).

If you use the iMac print server, I'm not sure how the iMac would export
the printer (IPP, Bonjour, something else perhaps). Perhaps an Apple
aficionado here could help. I have an AirBook but rarely use it and
certainly never as a print server.
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