On Thu, 2018-11-15 at 06:12 +0100, Scott van Looy via users wrote: > So httpd survived Tuesday without crashing but crashed again > yesterday and today. > > In /var/log/messages I can see: > > Nov 14 03:26:57 novak systemd[1]: Reloading The Apache HTTP Server. > Nov 14 03:26:57 novak systemd[739346]: httpd.service: Failed to set > up mount namespacing: No such file or directory > Nov 14 03:26:57 novak systemd[739346]: httpd.service: Failed at step > NAMESPACE spawning /usr/sbin/httpd: No such file or directory These two lines are bad. Do you have custom /etc/systemd/system/httpd* ? It likely comes from "PrivateTmp=..." in httpd.service. The stock file *does* have this. > Googling the NAMESPACE error I find a post about /tmp or /var/tmp > being symbolic links. Neither are. Does ls -laZd /tmp or /var/tmp look like: drwxrwxrwt. 18 root root system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0 16384 Nov 15 10:30 tmp Does ls -laZd /run /run/httpd/ look like: drwxr-xr-x. 65 root root system_u:object_r:var_run_t:s0 1660 Nov 15 09:41 /run/ drwx--x---. 3 root apache system_u:object_r:httpd_var_run_t:s0 100 Nov 13 13:06 /run/httpd/ Maybe there's a cron process that messes with /tmp/ ? Some RedHat/Fedora systems come with tmpwatch (rpm -q tmpwatch ; ls /etc/cron*/tmpwatch*) which removes stale files from /tmp/ and /var/tmp/. One of these could be biting. > Yesterday I reinstalled httpd from scratch, last night it crashed > again in the same way. Seems more like a bad selinux or permissions thing. Or something that deletes files. > Does anyone know what user logrotate runs as? I’ve tried > /bin/systemctl reload httpd.service as root and it reloads as > expected and am wondering if there’s something else weird going on > here? root, except where specified otherwise. Look for "su someuser" in /etc/logrotate.d/* /etc/logrotate.conf/httpd on my machine runs as root (some conf files run as a different user) httpd *startup* needs root. Note that logrotate should reload (not restart) httpd. Reloading should not kill httpd. This happens to provide an uninterrupted service on tcp port 80. *That* "needs" (not really) a consistent file like /run/httpd.pid and that might go missing. If you don't need 100% uptime you could replace reload with restart in /etc/logrotate.d/httpd, but you'll lose your webserver for a few seconds every day. Personally I might make a new cron script like ( ls -laZd /tmp/ /var/tmp/ /run/ /run/httpd/ ... something else? ) 2>&1 | logger -t "myscript" and see if the files go missing. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx