Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

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On 11/7/18 3:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
I did find one place:
   https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html
that offers to "Download Fedora 29 Xfce Desktop", and I have done so.
However, there's no checksum that I've been able to discover.
If you had clicked on the download bar, then there's a button that shows
up that says "Verify 64 bit". If you click on that, a text file pops up
showing the checksums. Pretty obvious if you ask me.
Yes, Rick, I tried that.  But that click regurgitates the "official" file of
checksums - for Cinnamon, KDE, LXDE, Mate_Compiz, SoaS.
But NOT Xfce!

This webpage has a frightening all-black notice:
   Although this spin failed to compose for the final release, this
   test compose contains fixes over the final content to allow for a
   successful compose and should meet most users' needs. You can verify
   the test compose image with a dedicated CHECKSUM file for 64-bit and
   32-bit images.

I would be grateful for someone to translate this into plain English.
It means exactly what it says...it didn't compose properly before the
release occurred. It's possible that there was an upstream package that
hadn't been updated in time or some such thing.
It would have been helpful for the writer to have written a bit more
and described what the actual problem is.
I think it means that there's something wrong with this .iso image,
but I can use it, maybe.
It works. I have it installed in a VM and a friend has installed it on
his main box. There will be issues as there are with any new release
(there have been problems with dnf for example--which has nothing to do
directly with the desktop). If you're going to use F29, I'd wait for the
dust to settle a bit. I never update to a new release for a couple of
weeks at least.
I, too, have installed this unofficial Xfce spin on a laptop, and it seems
to be quite functional.  I have noticed that some icons styles are missing,
but nothing else serious, so far.

Red Hat is deeply engrossed in Gnome (yes, I farking hate it as well),
so (IMHO) it is what releases (as far as desktops) are based on. Xfce,
KDE, LXQT, Mate, all of them are dependent on some upstream stuff that
Red Hat doesn't have any control (or much direct influence) over. If
they're tardy in getting some component to Fedora in time, the compose
doesn't work.
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	David A. De Graaf    DATIX, Inc.    Hendersonville, NC
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