On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: >> >> >> On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: >>>> On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users >>>>>>> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: >>>>>>>>> I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the >>>>>>>>> neck.....by Bruce >>>>>>>>> Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, >>>>>>>>> mergers, and long term financials,.... And while Red Hat was a >>>>>>>>> corporation per se.....I've always loved Fedora for being >>>>>>>>> different, for >>>>>>>>> being the odd distro that was backed by a major corporation >>>>>>>>> ....but was >>>>>>>>> still able to support itself independently. Now? I'm just >>>>>>>>> "leery". I >>>>>>>>> don't know what plans IBM has for their new found "toy".....& >>>>>>>>> I'd rather >>>>>>>>> not be surprised as others have said. So the question is: >>>>>>>>> Are there any .rpm-based distros that would make a good >>>>>>>>> replacement for >>>>>>>>> Fedora?.... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Heartbroken in the world of Open Source. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> EGO II >>>>>>>> Wonderfully stated. The announcement took my breath away. I hope >>>>>>>> Fedora gets spun off. >>>>>>> Unlike the IBM of today, Redhat was not really your average >>>>>>> capitalist enterprise so they supported Fedora. They had a long >>>>>>> view which is not permitted by markets.....In any case, I doubt >>>>>>> that Fedora or OSS is an example of any kind of capitalism. A >>>>>>> good place to start looking for that would be Somalia. >>>>>> >>>>>> Uhhhh. Red Hat uses Fedora as a testing ground for RHEL. RHEL is >>>>>> basically a defunct, bug frozen version of Fedora. Red Hat gets >>>>>> a ton of benefit from Fedora. >>>>>> >>>>>> The big question is how will IBM look at it. RHEL is pretty much >>>>>> unusable for newer software as RHEL is so bug riddled and out of >>>>>> date. >>>>> Don't know why you think RHEL is bug riddled. it's stable and >>>>> will run for years. >>>>> >>>>> Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux >>>>> every six >>>>> months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years >>>>> with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional >>>>> reboot. People with many computers can't spend time reinstalling and >>>>> re-configuring all of them once or twice every year. And I don't want >>>>> to do that with my home systems either. I want something I can use >>>>> for 2 or 3 years, at least, before enduring the reinstall pain again. >>>>> >>>>> They may use what appears to be an old kernel, but RH does backports >>>>> of many modern features and bug fixes. >>>>> >>>> +1 >>> >>> Why are you using Fedora? >>> >> >> ToddAndMargo: >> >> Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what >> might be coming in RHEL/Centos >> >> Paul > > Hi Paul, > > Back when I was using RHEL and Clones, I use to say "What goes > on in Fedora, eventually winds up in RHEL." Technically, at some point a specific Fedora BECOMES the next RHEL (and eventually CentOS) release. IIRC, Fedora 18 got frozen and became RHEL/CentOS 7. That's what I mean about Fedora being essentially Beta versions of RHEL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Blessed be the peacekeepers, for they shall be shot at from - - both sides. - - -- A.M. Greeley - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx