Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

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On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
>>> On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users
>>>>>>> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the
>>>>>>>>> neck.....by Bruce
>>>>>>>>> Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations,
>>>>>>>>> mergers, and long term financials,.... And while Red Hat was a
>>>>>>>>> corporation per se.....I've always loved Fedora for being
>>>>>>>>> different, for
>>>>>>>>> being the odd distro that was backed by a major corporation
>>>>>>>>> ....but was
>>>>>>>>> still able to support itself independently. Now? I'm just
>>>>>>>>> "leery". I
>>>>>>>>> don't know what plans IBM has for their new found "toy".....&
>>>>>>>>> I'd rather
>>>>>>>>> not be surprised as others have said. So the question is:
>>>>>>>>> Are there any .rpm-based distros that would make a good
>>>>>>>>> replacement for
>>>>>>>>> Fedora?....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Heartbroken in the world of Open Source.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EGO II
>>>>>>>> Wonderfully stated.  The announcement took my breath away.  I hope
>>>>>>>> Fedora gets spun off.
>>>>>>> Unlike the IBM of today, Redhat was not really your average
>>>>>>> capitalist enterprise so they supported Fedora. They had a long
>>>>>>> view which is not permitted by markets.....In any case, I doubt
>>>>>>> that Fedora or OSS is an example of any kind of capitalism. A
>>>>>>> good place to start looking for that would be Somalia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uhhhh.  Red Hat uses Fedora as a testing ground for RHEL. RHEL is
>>>>>> basically a defunct, bug frozen version of Fedora.  Red Hat gets
>>>>>> a ton of benefit from Fedora.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The big question is how will IBM look at it.  RHEL is pretty much
>>>>>> unusable for newer software as RHEL is so bug riddled and out of
>>>>>> date.
>>>>> Don't know why you think RHEL is  bug riddled. it's stable and
>>>>> will run for years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux
>>>>> every six
>>>>> months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years
>>>>> with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional
>>>>> reboot. People with many computers can't spend time reinstalling and
>>>>> re-configuring all of them once or twice every year. And I don't want
>>>>> to do that with my  home systems either. I want something I can use
>>>>> for 2 or 3 years, at least, before enduring the reinstall pain again.
>>>>>
>>>>> They may use what appears to be an old kernel, but RH does backports
>>>>> of many modern features and bug fixes.
>>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>
>>> Why are you using Fedora?
>>>
>>
>> ToddAndMargo:
>>
>> Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what
>> might be coming in RHEL/Centos
>>
>> Paul
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Back when I was using RHEL and Clones, I use to say "What goes
> on in Fedora, eventually winds up in RHEL."

Technically, at some point a specific Fedora BECOMES the next RHEL
(and eventually CentOS) release. IIRC, Fedora 18 got frozen and
became RHEL/CentOS 7. That's what I mean about Fedora being essentially
Beta versions of RHEL.
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