On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 06:39:35PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Thanks for explaining, and to everyone else in this thread: I'll try > to keep sticking to a reboot after larger updates, I think .. ;) > > And for those not so happy with tracer, there's also another tool: > dnf.plugin.needs_restarting ("dnf needs-restarting") Thanks for that information about both dnf and tracer :) I just ran a dnf upgrade. dnf needs-restarting shows better information than tracer for me with Fedora 27 (*not* 28). On my server: # dnf needs-restarting 2350 : /usr/local/bin/mythbackend --logpath /var/log/mythtv --loglevel notice 2395 : kded5 [kdeinit5] 2484 : kwin_x11 -session 10dad9ced3000145075233200000050340000_1452052580_997550 2505 : /usr/bin/krunner 2507 : /usr/bin/plasmashell 2578 : /usr/bin/konsole -session 10dad9ced3000145075236000000050340011_1452052577_900110 2684 : mythwelcome 2938 : /usr/bin/akonadi_mailfilter_agent --identifier akonadi_mailfilter_agent 2942 : /usr/bin/akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent --identifier akonadi_newmailnotifier_agent 3059 : /usr/local/bin/mythfrontend 3062 : /usr/libexec/drkonqi -platform xcb -display :0 --appname baloo_file_extractor --apppath /usr/bin --signal 11 --pid 2529 --appversion 5.46.0 --programname Baloo File Extractor --bugaddress submit@xxxxxxxxxxxx --startupid 0 Versus: # tracer -a You should restart: * These applications rebooting your computer: kernel And on my desktop (OS X running virtual box, and also running Fedora 27), neither of them works, but I can still use "lsof -d DEL -a /" The desktop shows: # dnf needs-restarting Failed to read PID 8706's smaps. # tracer -a | wc 0 0 0 # lsof -d DEL -a / | wc lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs Output information may be incomplete. lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse file system /run/user/1000/doc Output information may be incomplete. 44 353 4094 -- Patrick _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/AS5ZSBWV7UBB4JXJAX5LZ6ZH5VAGOW52/