On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 20:03 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 06/02/18 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > > > > You did online updates? This is the reason why offline updates is the > > > > > default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird > > > > > situations like this. > > > > > > > > Ok, you maniacs finally did it, you made a Linux suck as hard as > > > > Windows. I'm out. > > > > > > Seriously? This discussion comes up regularly. In most cases online > > > updates work, but sometimes there are issues. Read the past threads for > > > more info, but it's an extremely hard problem to make it always work for > > > very obvious reasons when you think about what's happening. > > > > I rely on tracer (using the dnf plugin) to tell me when I need to > > reboot. Are you saying this is unreliable? > > > > Where did Sam say anything about tracer? He didn't. I merely state that it it's useful to know when a reboot is necessary and when it isn't, which is the difference between online and offline updates. > FWIW, I don't use the tracer dnf plugin since I use the nVidia drivers from rpmfusion > and akmods. It may have been improved. But when I was using it and a kernel update > happened the tracer process would keep the rpmdb locked so when the nVidia mods were > compiled they failed to install. I haven't had problems but I don't use the Nvidia drivers now. Back when I did use them I also had locking issues, though I never associated them with tracer specifically. poc _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/RCAG5LF5PU43MKMO7P276PFHWTNNM6WE/
