Tim: >> There are programs that just don't terminate every time when I log >> out. Various system/desktop daemons, sometimes web browsers. Patrick O'Callaghan: > Possibly unrelated, but I sometimes - not always - find that after > updating (using dnf with the tracer plugin) I'm advised to restart my > session, then on logging out and in I'm suddenly forced out again > after a short time, usually less than a minute. Software updates aren't part of my problem's situation. It can do it when I haven't done any updates since the last reboot. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.16.7-100.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed May 2 21:45:56 UTC 2018 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. You can't have equality AND special treatment. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/ARMTLN7TEALV5OXZBUDVBRE5CVJR2I7G/