Apologies Patrick: Morgan and mstuff... are one and the same - I'm still getting to grips with this web interpretation of a mail list, updating 'profile' on the go... That might have caused some confusion where i was coming from. > I'll repeat: the *X server* is the machine with the display... Yes, the host sever is on a real hardware machine which is not running any apps that require a graphic display - but of course do require text display; on the same hardware there are virtual client graphic appliance machines which do require graphic display; the hardware includeds a display with graphics capability >From what you say, it seems inevitable that I need X on the host server (despite it not running any apps that require it) in order to serve that X to the virtual clients which are running apps that require graphics display. Thus, my server is essentially a workstation? I hope that clarifies - rather than muddying the waters further... I was simply refering to Wayland, Docker etc as examples of new technologies which might impact on the most sensible solutions available - though your comment in Wayland means I can cross it off my list of worries! Thx Morgan _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx