On 09/10/17 21:03, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 11:37 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Sun, 2017-09-10 at 03:21 -0400, Bill Shirley wrote: >>> Just a couple of my servers: >>> [0:root@apinetstore2 ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release >>> Fedora release 21 (Twenty One) >>> [0:root@apinetstore2 ~]$ uptime >>> 02:18:00 up 949 days, 17:08, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.41, 0.44 >>> >>> [0:root@elvis ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release >>> Fedora release 16 (Verne) >>> [0:root@elvis ~]$ uptime >>> 02:19:02 up 553 days, 16:00, 4 users, load average: 0.20, 0.16, 0.14 >>> >>> It's usually a disk wearing out that forces a reboot. >> All that means is that you're running out-of-date systems on your >> servers. > It's also a strong hint that it's possible to have machines up and > running for > such a long time. Sure..... If you never do any updates! As we've pointed out. The versions showing above are EOL. As in End Of Life. They are not getting ANY updates. They are not getting a new kernel. They are not getting security updates. They are not getting "maintained". > > That's what this whole debate basically is about: less maintenance > work and more usage of the machines - and to reach that I (and probably > quite a few more than just me) need at least less reboots. It's > doable, see Bill Shirley's machines, and yes: it might need quite some > work to reach that target - question remains: does anyone care? ... :) Seriously, all you have to do is not update until you want to and you can reduce the number of reboots that take all of a few minutes for most reasonably powered systems. Do updates once a month if you want. Maybe you want to keep an eye out for serious security updates that pop up from time to time. But if everything is working for you then you aren't obligated to apply updates simply because they are available. > Have all a nice Sunday! > Already just about over here. -- Fedora Users List - The place to go to speculate endlessly
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