Re: Possible to "dnf upgrade" in a Fedora Gnome without the need to reboot?

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Den 2017-09-07 kl. 15:32, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 14:52 +0200, Jon Ingason wrote:
>> Den 2017-09-07 kl. 14:16, skrev Wolfgang Pfeiffer:
> 
> 
> 
>>> Please note: I'm not talking about a full version upgrade from let's
>>> say
>>> F25 to F26 - just about the usual upgrades inside a single Fedora
>>> version ..
>>
>> OK, then you need to reboot. See following link to learn to do system
>> upgrade:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DNF_system_upgrade
> 
> No: that's about a complete system upgrade from one Fedora version to
> another. It's clear one has to reboot for that. 

Sorry Wolfgang, I mist the "not" :-(

But you can ignore the Gnome update and use dnf instead regularly and
exclude the kernel update if you don't want to reboot.

The kernel updated more rapidly in Fedora than in Debian so you are
bound to update the kernel more often and reboot tog get the latest
security update of the kernel.

> 
> But I'm trying to avoid reboots after package updates in one single
> Fedora version, the ones that are showering in every few hours .... 
> 
> And I'm talking about this, from Adam Williamson, a Fedora guy:
> 
> "The 'STANDARD FEDORA SOLUTION' for Workstation is offline updates with
> GNOME Software."
> ... which I understand as a need to reboot even after simple package
> updates.
> 
> Link again:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/7ULAG243UNGTOSL6URGNG23GC4B6X5GB/
> 
> Or here, again Adam Williamson:
> "The safest possible way to update a Fedora system is to use the
> ‘offline updates’ mechanism. If you use GNOME, this is how updates work
> if you just wait for the notifications to appear, the ones that tell 
> you you can reboot to install updates now."
> 
> https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/10/04/x-crash-during-fedora-update-when-system-has-hybrid-graphics-and-systemd-udev-is-in-update/
> 
> See? "The safest possible way to update a Fedora system is to use the
> ‘offline updates’ mechanism."
> 
> That's why I started the thread. Again: I use dnf, not the GNOME update
> mechanism, but from how I understand A. Williamsen, this might also
> apply to package updates via dnf and the reboot following on that ...
> 
> TIA
> Wofgang
> 


-- 
Regards

Jon Ingason
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