On 08/03/2017 02:45 PM, AV wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 13:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 08/03/2017 11:09 AM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: >>> I saw something similar to this in Arch Linux before I switched to >>> Fedora. It happened shortly after the switch to systemd and >>> persisted on my systems until at least the beginning of this >>> year. I was able to see who was logged in by running >>> "loginctl". Does that work for you? >> >> Check the session manager, too and/or its settings. I just installed >> LXQt and logged in using it. Both who and users worked fine for me. >> >> Oh, and please don't top-post. >> > You replied to Marmorstein, not to me :) I don't top post. Whoops! I just replied to the thread. Didn't pay attention to the last poster. My bad! (now flailing myself with wet linguini) > Strange that it works for you. Understand that normally I use Xfce. I simply did a dnf groupinstall "LXQt Desktop" then logged out of my Xfce session and logged in under an LXQt session. It may be that my greeter, session manager or display manager is different in this sort of scenario than you have, but it works. Under Xfce, I use lightdm as my display manager and that may still be the case under LXQt (I don't think the display manager gets changed by simply installing a new desktop). IIRC, LXQt uses lxdm as the display manager by default and there are postings about lxdm not updating utmp out there in Google-land. I didn't check to see what was running when I was in LXQt. Sorry...probably should have. I just checked and the permissions for the file that "user" and "who" rely on is: root@golem4 ~]# ls -l /var/run/utmp -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 1152 Aug 3 12:55 /var/run/utmp so you can see it got touched today (that is about the time I logged back into Xfce after terminating the temporary LXQt session). > I had just finished checking the session manager and its settings > and didn't see anything untoward. But then I do not usually wrestle > with these things so I might have missed something. I checked a bit, too, but I didn't see anything obvious that would relate to that other than the aforementioned issues with lxdm versus lightdm. > I will now do a fresh install on another machine > and see if that works and then compare to see what happened. Yeah, I'm curious to know what's what. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Whoever said "Money can't buy happiness" obviously never had any - - money! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx