JD wrote: >> gnome project keeps doing things that disable the user. Matthew Miller: > This seems... unnecssary. Though, I'd say it's accurate. You could build up a list of things that keep getting removed from your control in Gnome. I'm not going to attempt to build up an extensive one, but as someone who's used Gnome on Fedora since Fedora began, and Red Hat Linux beforehand, I have definitely noticed things being removed from user control. Here's just a few, and I'm sure others could add quite a few more, if they wanted: 1. Used to be able to customise GDM, can't anymore without serious hacking. 2. Used to be able to have screensavers, now you have to bodge in something else. 3. Used to have decent control of the audio mixer, now there's none. Others have commented that if they try to bring up user-configuration of Gnome in the Gnome arena, it always gets howled down. The evidence is against your assertion. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 (always current details of the computer that I'm writing this email on) Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. I reserve the right to be as hypocritical as the next person. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx