On 01/01/2017 18:39, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 16:15:57 +0100, Mayavimmer wrote: > >> I have tried that very thing many times. It seems to fail in complicated >> situations. > > Such as? I have described them already a few times. I don't want to make this thread very long. I will start a new thread with exact repeatable failure scenarios, as soon as I can, so we can have a disciplined discussion about this. > > Just out of interest (and I could have spared myself this test) You could start by sparing yourself this comment, sir. I also have spent many hours on this. Because I have to. If you don't want, you are free to do anything else you like. , I've done > another F25 installation (from Workstation x86_64 live image) to a machine > that can boot F25, F24, F22 and some other distributions already. LVM, ext4 > and LUKS involved. I've asked for manual partitioning and haven't run into > any issues. Good for you. When I tried it, I ran into issues, which is why I am here asking the list for their experiences. The information you are giving me right here is no more precise and detailed than what I gave earlier. I need details! Did you UEFI or BIOS? How much free space did you have? Is that space all in a linear chunk or spread out to a piece in an LVM and another piece a raw partition, etc? Was your /boot inside or outside the LVM? Was there a preexisting Btrfs partition with some free space in it? Did you have a preexisting ext4 over LVM over Md RAID 1 install that may have confused the installer? I mentioned somewhere that on one machine _each_ install took 40 min. to finish the initial fsck! How long was yours? These are some of the problems I ran into. But you did not have any issues. Good for you. > >> And it never gives much of a diagnostic message beyond "your >> configuration cannot be implemented" or some such. I'll try to repeat >> those experiments and give details, starting tomorrow, if I can. > > *That* might lead to something. That will certainly be better than the information I can offer now. But what I have already given, plus the helpful contribution of some other users should already amount to something. > >>>> Is there a lot of censorship on this list too? >>> >>> That's an irrational comment. >> >> No, that's a question. I am new to the list and would like to know if it >> works efficiently or it is a wasteland of egos like most of the >> internet. > > That's another irrational comment. I highly recommend you don't flee into > more such off-topic comments. I recommend the same for you, sir. And I recommend you desist from making personal recommendations to any user on this list. > >> In my humble opinion the F25 installer is awkward. Can I say that? > > If it makes you happy. Decide yourself. It is not a question of happiness, but of clarity. > >>> and your description so far sounds like PEBKAC. ;-) >> >> I might accept that as your own opinion if you knew the actual details, >> which I have not given yet, > > Hence my earlier requests for details. I already answered that. > >> because I would have to reinstall yet again. >> But all you know is that I have tried manual installation and failed. > > Seriously? You wrote: > > | Also note that "manual" does not seem to be very manual after all. > | In previous more complicated installs it chooses put new partitions > | in seemingly arbitrary empty spaces like LVMs. > > ??? > You are right there is a typo: add "to" after chooses: "chooses put" should be "chooses to put". Is it clear now? >> Thus your contribution so far sounds like an ad hominem. ;-) > > Talk is cheap. Look, you chose to offend a new user you don't even know just because he criticized some aspect of the product in question without having enough evidence to convict. That does not give you the right to say that the problem is me. This is a technical list for the purpose of collectively improving a great product I chose to use. Your behavior diminishes the list. > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
