On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 04:13:45PM +0530, Sudhir Khanger wrote: > On my weekly update I notice that I am almost always required to > either restart the session or reboot the system. Both of these > options are unacceptable because they require closing 10-15 apps and > restarting them. That's unnecessary hassle and loss in productivity. It's an inevitable artifact of the distribution model where we to the greatest extent possible have only one version of each application and library. As a practical matter, you can do online, live updates with dnf and _not_ restart the various things that need it until its convenient, and most of the time the application will mostly just work (possibly still vulnerable to nominally-patched bugs). Long term, the only practical solution to this is to decouple application and desktop environment from the system; we're exploring doing that using OCI (Docker-style) containers and Flatpak. (There are other *possible* solutions, but I don't see anyone working on them.) > Fedora's all or none update system also doesn't make it easy. If I > don't update system then I leave it vulnerable. Note that with Fedora 26, you will be able to do "dnf upgrade --security" to get only security-related updates (and any necessary updated dependencies). This isn't foolproof (sometimes updates turn out only in retrospect to be security fixes), but should reduce churn. If you want to live on the bleeding edge, you can enable the new version of DNF with this feature now on Fedora 24 or Fedora 25 with `sudo dnf copr enable rpmsoftwaremanagement/dnf-nightly`. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
