Tom Horsley wrote: > Read about it here: http://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html LOL Actually, I'm pretty happy with systemd h/t To think of the hours I used to spend finding out about daemons I never used and what they were for, setting them all up to either run or not run, etc... Sure, I suppose I learned a lot about the system, but I like that systemd just does it all for me and I don't need to waste my time on pointless tasks that a modern OS should be able to deal with on its own. My old computers were afflicted with pesky stop job problem, too. I'm not sure if it is on my new one? I didn't realize that it was only on reboots and not shutdowns: perhaps that's why I haven't seen it lately? Or could it be fixed :-O I dealt with it by making an espresso and then it was timed out. They go for 1'30". But, yes, it is frustrating when working on something and having to wait for the timeout. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx