Allegedly, on or about 02 September 2016, Rick Stevens sent: > They really should drop Yahoo as well. I'm going to drop (well, do > absolutely nothing with) my yahoo account since those yahoos (pun > intended) decided to lobotomize their protocol so libpurple and such > won't work with it any longer. You have to use THEIR client (which > isn't available for Linux--only phones) or the web. Sheesh! I'd been seeing that warning message for a while, wondering when they were going to do the dirty. Looks like they finally killed it tonight. I am so thoroughly sick of the greedy, short-sighted, attitude of the various IM protocol developers. With the deliberate inability for one protocol to communicate to another, forcing us to run multiple clients (to deal with all the different people that we communicate with), or something like Pidgin that could manage multiple protocols. Their own clients are user-hostile, with hideous interfaces and annoying advertising, data-mining, ever-changing settings and features. You wouldn't want to run them if you had a choice. I won't be running to use Yahoo's client. If it can't be made to run with Pidgin, it's going to get dumped. I used to like using Jabber, because I like the idea of it (an open protocol, that's the opposite of trying to be "only use me, only I am important"), but lack of servers (either far-from continuously reliable, or long-lived) has been offputting over the years (and it's got worse). To me, and the reason by few others (than true computer geeks) will use it. I wonder if its feasible for there to be an officially supported Fedora Jabber server (as opposed to someone's server running off their home PC, which won't be up to the task, nor have a long-enough lifespan to be useful). I am sick of the ever-changing me-only IM schemes, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, Skype, etc., with their crapily programed Linux clients, if they even exist. It's long past time that IM was a general purpose protocol that everything used, like email is. Will they ever learn that proprietary communications protocols are a shit idea? -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. Damn, I didn't mean to press *that* button! -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org