On 08/30/2016 03:44 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > Rick, > > Thanks! > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:54:38 -0700 Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> I believe this is caused by the startup sequence and a "bug" in >> nm-applet. On boot, NetworkManager (NM) is started by systemd. When you >> log in, your desktop session starts nm-applet (it is optional after >> all). nm-applet queries NM when nm-applet starts, gets the status and >> tracks it as long as your session is running. >> >> On wake up from hibernate, nm-applet picks up where it left off, but it >> doesn't "check in" with NM so it doesn't know what the status is. I'm >> not sure how they coordinate (dbus, etc.), but that seems to be the >> issue. Perhaps NM gets a different dbus identity on wakeup and >> nm-applet doesn't find out about it. I simply don't know. I do recall >> that on a previous version I saw errors in the system log that >> nm-applet couldn't "find" NM for some odd reason. I don't have the >> records any longer so I can't tell you exactly what it said, but that >> was the gist of it. >> >> IMHO, nm-applet should periodically query NM and, if it doesn't get a >> response, restart itself. If it still doesn't get a response, then it >> should pop up an error message about it (e.g. that NM isn't running or >> some such thing). > > Your explanation may be right, but I wonder why this problem has only happened to me with F24 systems. This problem did not happen with F23 installations. So, unless this bug recently came in, then I don't know why it worked just fine with the old setup. I had issues with F23 doing this on occasion. I believe it was a point where NM had been updated but nm-applet hadn't caught up yet. I don't recall exactly. Had similar issues with bluetooth (those were definitely dbus-related). > Btw, assuming that this is a bug, where should I file it? Before that, I should perhaps make sure and look at the logs that you talked about here? Which logs should I check? I'd assume the bug should be filed against both NM and nm-applet since it's some sort of mis-interaction between them and it's not clear whose mechanism should be followed. As far as logs, I'd check both dmesg and the system log for things containing "network". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - IGNORE that man behind the keyboard! - - - The Wizard of OS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org