Hey guys...
Not to start a flame war...On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've said it before, systemd is a huge, cumbersome, useless solutionOn 07/28/2016 11:53 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:37:41 -0400
> David A. De Graaf wrote:
>
>> Have I overlooked something obvious? Is there a way to make systemd
>> perform the simple function 'shutdown' smoothly, reliably and quickly?
>> If anyone knows how, I would love to hear it.
>
> I can't make systemd itself work, but I've been using an
> outside systemd solution for a while now: I setup
> an alias for the "reboot" command that arranges to
> kill off all the things systemd unreasonably waits
> for, then does a real reboot.
>
> Since systemd now has nothing to stop it, it reboots
> rather fast (until something new shows up which I have
> to track down and add to my list :-).
>
> My current set of things to do before shutdown includes:
>
> umount -l -t nfs -a
> apachectl -k stop
> kill all the "user deamon" process trees.
>
> The user daemon stuff is handled by a program
> described here:
>
> http://tomhorsley.com/game/punch.html
>
> Of course, since (according to the systemd biggest
> myths page) systemd is easy to script and not at all
> confusing, then it should be trivial for me to script
> things so shutdown works this way automatically
> without me having to remember to run my alias
> in a terminal, but, alas, they don't appear to be
> myths at all.
looking for a problem. The decision to use this crud was one of the most
boneheaded things any distribution (not just RHEL/Fedora) ever chose
to adopt. Unfortunately, we're stuck with it now.
As far as the NFS unmount issue, this was an interesting dialog
that happened in September last year:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/1257
So, "but I doubt that lazy unmounting is really a comprehensive
solution for anything..." comes from one of the developers. Fine, then
when it times out, do a forced umount. This is pretty obvious. The
server isn't listening and we (the client) are shutting down. Pull the
g*ddamned plug!
I'm with David...but this is only one of a litany of stupid decisions
systemd makes. It seems that developers nowadays are never taught how
(or are simply too lazy) to test for error conditions.
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