On 02/22/16 19:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > After updating with dnf I usually run "sudo tracer" to see what needs > to be restarted. I've noticed that the results are often inconsistent, > e.g. after a recent update I get: > > You should restart: > * Some applications using: > kdeinit4 > > * These applications manually: > abrt-applet > chrome > dolphin > evolution > evolution-addressbook-factory > evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess > evolution-alarm-notify > evolution-calendar-factory > evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess > evolution-source-registry > file.so > firefox > firewall-applet > goa-daemon > goa-identity-service > gvfs-goa-volume-monitor > gvfsd-smb-browse > insync > kaccess > kded5 > kdeinit5 > kglobalaccel5 > kmix > konsole > krunner > kscreen_backend_launcher > ksmserver > kuiserver5 > kwalletd5 > mission-control-5 > plasmashell > polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 > qbittorrent > xembedsniproxy > yakuake > > Additionally to those process above, there are: > - 6 processes requiring restart of your session (i.e. Logging out & Logging in again) > > Note that last line. I exited the session and immediately logged into a > (non-GUI) console as root, then ran tracer again, getting this: > > You should restart: > * Some applications using: > service firewalld restart > service gssproxy restart > service libvirtd restart > service nmbd restart > service smb restart > service sshd restart > service tuned restart > > * These applications manually: > cagibid > cupsd > fail2ban-server > rsyslogd > > Additionally to those process above, there are: > - 1 processes requiring reboot > > Again. note the last line. So there are two issues here: > > 1) The first run of tracer didn't spot a bunch of services and other > demons that needed to be restarted. > > 2) It also didn't spot that I needed to reboot, meaning that just > logging out and in again would not have left me with a consistent > system. > > Not sure if this can be classed as a bug or a feature. I don't know either. But I have a suggestion. The next time you do an update instead of using, or in addition to, "sudo tracer" use "su -" to get an actual root login shell and run tracer and see if there is a difference there as well. I suggest that since when you run "sudo" there are some SUDO_ environment variables and potentially tracer takes this into account when it does what it does. Just a thought.... -- In reality, some people should stick to running Windows and others should stay away from computers altogether. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org