After updating with dnf I usually run "sudo tracer" to see what needs to be restarted. I've noticed that the results are often inconsistent, e.g. after a recent update I get: You should restart: * Some applications using: kdeinit4 * These applications manually: abrt-applet chrome dolphin evolution evolution-addressbook-factory evolution-addressbook-factory-subprocess evolution-alarm-notify evolution-calendar-factory evolution-calendar-factory-subprocess evolution-source-registry file.so firefox firewall-applet goa-daemon goa-identity-service gvfs-goa-volume-monitor gvfsd-smb-browse insync kaccess kded5 kdeinit5 kglobalaccel5 kmix konsole krunner kscreen_backend_launcher ksmserver kuiserver5 kwalletd5 mission-control-5 plasmashell polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1 qbittorrent xembedsniproxy yakuake Additionally to those process above, there are: - 6 processes requiring restart of your session (i.e. Logging out & Logging in again) Note that last line. I exited the session and immediately logged into a (non-GUI) console as root, then ran tracer again, getting this: You should restart: * Some applications using: service firewalld restart service gssproxy restart service libvirtd restart service nmbd restart service smb restart service sshd restart service tuned restart * These applications manually: cagibid cupsd fail2ban-server rsyslogd Additionally to those process above, there are: - 1 processes requiring reboot Again. note the last line. So there are two issues here: 1) The first run of tracer didn't spot a bunch of services and other demons that needed to be restarted. 2) It also didn't spot that I needed to reboot, meaning that just logging out and in again would not have left me with a consistent system. Not sure if this can be classed as a bug or a feature. poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org