Re: strange behavior of external esatausb ports on a Dell laptop

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Set up the VOM and temp monitoring from software center.  Push the system and see if there is a corrilation with rise in temp and your loss of power.

Fred Roller

On Aug 26, 2015 5:58 PM, "jd1008" <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On 08/26/2015 12:08 PM, g wrote:

On 08/26/15 11:17, jd1008 wrote:
On 08/25/2015 10:36 PM, g wrote:
On 08/25/15 21:15, jd1008 wrote:
On a Dell E6510 laptop, there are 4 ports: 3 USB, and 1 eSata.
The ports on the left side of the laptop are USB and eSata.
Both of these ports start losing voltage after some time of
operation, say ....1 hours to 5 hours.
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did you web search or dell site?

does voltage decrease to 0.00 v?

boot to bios or a live cd/dvd. monitor voltage. if still happens,
i would guess hardware.


There does not seem to be any google hits on what I see taking place.
Dell support is  not help. They just want you to buy a new mobo.
Voltage does not go to zero - because the tiny usb fan drops it's
rpms, but does not stop. So, perhaps it is not the voltage that is dropping,
but the amperage???

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ok, lets look at this another way...

you say you are on ac, so that _might_ eliminate battery's voltage dropping,
unless wall wart is failing, or failure in voltage regulatory circuits.

ac input from wart is rectified in laptop and then feed to the various
regulator circuits. it is possible that there may be a vlsi chip that
does all the voltage regulating by feeding control voltages to output
power transistors. voltage regulation can be done in many ways and only
the oem knows for sure, unless supplied in specs or schematic.

does laptop have indicator light to show battery/charge state, ac power
state?
Power supply's ac-dc circuitry is external. It feeds DC to the laptop.
do you have battery state icon on a panel that you can watch?
Yes. It shows battery at 100%. I hardly every am without AC simply
because I only need the battery if and when AC goes out. In my area,
it doe shappen, albeit, not as often as it was happening elsewhere.

  if icon shows
a state of 100% that later drops, that will give a clue of problem being
in voltage regulator circuit or in usb port chip/s.
No. It stays 100%.

you really need a VOM, Volt/Ohm Meter. a fan is pp for accurate measuring
of voltage fluctuation.

with vom, you can monitor voltage output of wart to see if it drops.

for laptop, when voltage drops, as measured at usb port, you would need to
have a way to measure battery while still connected. when you state that
you have a vom, i will go into further.

because you have failure on one side and not other, tends to indicate that
each side is on a separate regulator circuit. left side regulator could be
heating up and failing.
That is a possibility, because the heat exhaust vent is next to the left site ports.


which brings to mind, is this same laptop you inherited that had over heated
and you replace cpu, then found it to be gpu?
Nop. That laptop is fubar. it has the same behavior as before, even less than
one minute after powering on and booting.

voltage/amperage regulator chips are of type;

   cv/va = constant voltage, variable amps
   ca/vv = constant amps, variable voltage
   cv/ca = constant voltage, constant amps.

the 'constant' is usually fixed or settable, 'variable' will have a max rate.

i will presume that the regulator in laptop is cv/va, so unless chip has
heat failure, amperage is not a factor.
Well, I do not know. If it has internal regulators, they must be receiving DC
and regulating the DC voltage, due to the fact that the AC->DC adapter is
external to laptop.

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