Re: dnf --refresh reverts to older metadata (was: Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates)

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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:48:22 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:

> > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4866
> 
> Maybe it's time to take a look at how other distributions do it.
> Arch's pacman has worked for me without any trouble a long time. And
> there is Opensuse & Co..

For such a step, evaluating where we are today should come first, IMO.
Then you can compare with how others do it, whether they distribute
their users to the same number of mirrors world-wide, or whether they
prefer a few mirrors run by passioned admins.

The master repository is updated.

Announcements are mailed out.

Users read an announcement, but they don't "see" the updates yet.
WTF? Why not? Forum posts around the world suggest "yum clean all"
and "dnf clean all" as _the fix_. But it isn't a fix, if the nearby
mirrors don't carry the changed repo contents yet. dnf --refresh
doesn't force retrieval of latest repodata either. (And that it even
reverted to old data is an unrelated bug in the implementation.)
Any automatically triggered check of the metadata would have achieved
the same, if done at the right time. Mirrors not being up-to-date,
nothing new to fetch.

Updates become available as soon as they arrive on the nearby mirrors.
Is that sent as a clear message to all Fedora users? I don't think so.

On average, how long does it take for updates to arrive on the mirrors?
Is anything known here? How long does it take for updates to arrive in
another country? Are there any high-priority mirrors, who likely carry
the latest changes quickly after release? Would it be possible to assign
users to nearby repos in a more reliable way? Questions, questions,
questions.
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