> On 05/26/2015 05:45 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 16:06 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: >>> On 05/26/2015 03:36 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: >>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 01:05:38PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >>>>> On 05/26/2015 12:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>>>>> IIRC yum used to be recommended before fedup came along. In any >>>>>> case >>>>>> I've just upgraded with fedup and it worked again as it has for >>>>>> the >>>>>> last 4 or 5 upgrades. >>>>> >>>>> Before there was the aptly-named fedup, there was preupgrade, >>>>> which worked >>>>> just fine for me. Before that, the recommended upgrade was >>>>> backup, >>>>> reinstall and restore. Yes, there was yum upgrade, but it was >>>>> very, very >>>>> Not Recommended. Now, there's also the unofficial upgrade >>>>> -fedora, and I'll >>>>> be trying on this box Real Soon Now. >>>> >>>> Well, my first preupgrade experience was okayish, but I was also >>>> very >>>> new to linux then. However by the time preupgrade had resolved its >>>> issues, I had already moved on to yum. I just find it a bit >>>> surprising >>>> that it is not *one of* the supported methods (meaning, QA tested), >>>> specially since it works so reliably and with such short downtime. >>>> >>> >>> If I were to add anything to the fedup documentation it would be >>> >>> Start this and then go to lunch. It's gonna be a while. >> >> YMMV. In my case it was all over in 30 minutes, but I have a reasonably >> fast >> machine and Internet connection. I wouldn't expect the total elapsed >> time to vary much with alternative upgrade methods. >> >> poc >> > > I had about 2800 packages to update, cleanup, and verify. There is a big difference doing an upgrade on a system with an SSD vs a SATA hard drive. Having a fast pipe also helps a lot. There is no "average time" because just those two things can mean the difference between minutes and hours. (Not to mention people, like me, who install just about everything.) Having a faster dependency resolver will help *the next time*, unless there is a way to default to using dnf for the fedup process. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org