On Tue, 12 May 2015 14:10:19 -0600 jd1008 <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 05/12/2015 01:58 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > On Tue, 12 May 2015 13:37:47 -0600 jd1008 <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> > >> On 05/12/2015 01:23 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >>> On 05/12/2015 11:52 AM, jd1008 wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 05/12/2015 12:26 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, 12 May 2015 11:53:38 -0600 jd1008 <jd1008@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> It would be a great idea if Fedora would provide > >>>>>> a way to downgrade to the immediately previous release > >>>>>> (from which the upgrade was performed), if the user > >>>>>> decides (for some reason) to return to the previous > >>>>>> release. This would completely obviate the need to > >>>>>> do a backup, and restore - especially for a 1TB or > >>>>>> more drives (I have a 4TB drive, for example). > >>>>> Also, and regardless, the default F setup should involve separate > >>>>> partitions for /home and /usr/local in addition to / and then this > >>>>> problem would not be a major issue. > >>>>> > >>>>> Ranjan > >>>> You are making a universal assumption, which would not hold true > >>>> for most people. > >>> Enforcing any rigid partitioning scheme is going to cause problems as > >>> it won't (and can't) cover every possible scenario. We've already had a > >>> huge flap about using a RAMdisk for /tmp (and dedicating 50% of your > >>> RAM for it). This has caused MANY utilities to misbehave because they > >>> were using /tmp for temporary files (as they should have) and it would > >>> fill up because it was so damned tiny. Fortunately you can disable this > >>> bit of lunacy and change /tmp back to a disk-based filesystem. > >>> > >>> The unification of /usr/[s]bin with the root filesystem is another > >>> biggie that's caused huge amounts of heartburn for admins. There's no > >>> easy way around that one other than having a really big / partition to > >>> hold everything. This one isn't as easy to crack. > >>> > >>> Other than that unification thing, all you can do is make > >>> recommendations as to partitioning and layout. Everyone's workload is > >>> likely to be a bit different so "one size doesn't fit all". > >> Fedup does NO partitioning of any kind, at least none that I know of. > >> It simply makes use of the existing partition. > >> It does not modify directories like /home or /opt .... etc. > >> So, it makes no difference if such directories are on > >> separate partitions. Someone tried ot make an issue > >> where no such issue exists. > > Well, much of the concerns about upgrading/reinstalling are about "losing data". I have always had a separate /home partition and just mounted it unformatted and never noticed a difference from one install to the other (since the days of Fedora Core 1). If you do not have a separate mount, installing does involve a huge amount of time. Hence the suggestion for default behaviour above. > > > > Ranjan > > > > > Har! > Losing which data?? > fedup has not been know to destroy any "precious" data. > Likewise, "fedown" !! Well, I was talking about reinstalling. There is no fedup for that. Folks like the OP on F17 can not fedup (and have to reinstall for an upgrade) from what I understood. Ranjan ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org