On 03/17/2015 11:09 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 03/18/15 12:42, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/17/2015 08:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
2. how to provide useful debugging info - if the user will not test a
non-tainted kernel I see no possible way for an automated system to
know where to file the bug
You are assuming that it's practical (or even possible) to run without a tainted kernel. Most people who use kmod-nvidia do so because they need better graphics than they can get from nouveau. Asking them to do without the OEM drivers (which taint the kernel) may make it difficult if not impossible to get their work done, and it's not always easy. And, in the case of my laptop, I don't even know, as yet, why it's tainted because there's no hardware involved that wasn't installed at the factory. Even if I knew what caused the taint, how am I supposed to remove it? Yes, in theory it should be possible on every computer, but I, at least live in reality, not theory.
Well, in a previous message you indicated that....
MY kernel is tainted by mods from rpmfusion. yet:
$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/tainted
0
So, you're using something from rpmfusion. But you don't know what in particular is causing the tainting.
You could tell the list what rpmfusion sw you've installed as well as showing the output of lsmod for others to see and someone may spot the offending module(s).
FWIW, I believe the the VirtualBox modules will taint but the suggestions I made won't reveal their complicity.
$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
bnep 19543 2
bluetooth 463099 5 bnep
fuse 91371 1
nf_conntrack_ipv4 14656 5
nf_defrag_ipv4 12702 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
xt_conntrack 12760 5
nf_conntrack 103513 2 xt_conntrack,nf_conntrack_ipv4
uvcvideo 81109 0
videobuf2_vmalloc 13163 1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_core 45100 1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops 13161 1 videobuf2_vmalloc
v4l2_common 14543 1 videobuf2_core
joydev 17344 0
coretemp 13441 0
videodev 152476 3 uvcvideo,v4l2_common,videobuf2_core
iTCO_wdt 13480 0
media 20906 2 uvcvideo,videodev
iTCO_vendor_support 13419 1 iTCO_wdt
kvm_intel 148304 0
gpio_ich 13579 0
ppdev 17635 0
dell_wmi 12681 0
dell_laptop 14000 0
kvm 471231 1 kvm_intel
sparse_keymap 13584 1 dell_wmi
dcdbas 14875 1 dell_laptop
serio_raw 13434 0
sdhci_pci 23343 0
i2c_i801 18146 0
sdhci 42580 1 sdhci_pci
mmc_core 125580 2 sdhci,sdhci_pci
arc4 12608 2
iwldvm 245292 0
mac80211 658674 1 iwldvm
lpc_ich 21093 0
mfd_core 13182 1 lpc_ich
snd_hda_codec_idt 63511 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 67600 1 snd_hda_codec_idt
snd_hda_intel 30520 4
snd_hda_controller 30786 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 135263 4
snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
iwlwifi 129740 1 iwldvm
snd_hwdep 17650 1 snd_hda_codec
parport_pc 28088 0
parport 40425 2 ppdev,parport_pc
snd_seq 70458 0
snd_seq_device 14136 1 snd_seq
cfg80211 514867 3 iwlwifi,mac80211,iwldvm
snd_pcm 105212 3
snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_timer 28778 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
rfkill 21980 5 cfg80211,bluetooth,dell_laptop
shpchp 37040 0
snd 80001 17
snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_device
soundcore 14496 2 snd,snd_hda_codec
tpm_tis 18630 0
tpm 35109 1 tpm_tis
acpi_cpufreq 19433 1
nfsd 293485 1
auth_rpcgss 58540 1 nfsd
nfs_acl 12741 1 nfsd
lockd 92864 1 nfsd
grace 13094 2 nfsd,lockd
sunrpc 283393 7 nfsd,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
binfmt_misc 17424 1
nouveau 1376565 2
mxm_wmi 12865 1 nouveau
i2c_algo_bit 13250 1 nouveau
drm_kms_helper 93738 1 nouveau
ttm 92999 1 nouveau
e1000e 238672 0
drm 305543 5 ttm,drm_kms_helper,nouveau
uas 22414 2
usb_storage 65065 1 uas
ptp 19140 1 e1000e
yenta_socket 45128 0
firewire_ohci 44323 0
firewire_core 62559 1 firewire_ohci
crc_itu_t 12613 1 firewire_core
pps_core 19130 1 ptp
wmi 18820 3 dell_wmi,mxm_wmi,nouveau
video 19905 1 nouveau
$ yum list installed | grep fusion
Repodata is over 2 weeks old. Install yum-cron? Or run: yum makecache fast
a52dec-devel.x86_64 0.7.4-19.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
akmods.noarch 0.5.1-4.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
dvdstyler.x86_64 1:2.8.1-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
exfat-utils.x86_64 1.1.1-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
faad2-devel.x86_64 1:2.7-6.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
ffmpeg.x86_64 2.4.7-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
ffmpeg-devel.x86_64 2.4.7-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
ffmpeg-libs.x86_64 2.4.7-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
fuse-exfat.x86_64 1.1.0-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
gnome-mplayer.x86_64 1.0.9-3.20150203svn2476.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
gnome-mplayer-common.x86_64 1.0.9-3.20150203svn2476.fc21
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-bad.x86_64 0.10.23-6.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree.x86_64 0.10.23-3.fc21
@rpmfusion-nonfree
k3b-extras-freeworld.x86_64 1:2.0.2-21.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
kmodtool.noarch 1-23.fc20 @rpmfusion-free
libavdevice.x86_64 2.4.7-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
libdca-devel.x86_64 0.0.5-8.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
libdvbpsi-devel.x86_64 1.2.0-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
libmpeg2-devel.x86_64 0.5.1-11.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
libvdpau-va-gl.x86_64 0.3.4-6.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
live555-devel.x86_64 2014.10.21-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
lpf-skype.i686 4.3.0.37-2.fc21 @rpmfusion-nonfree
mac-devel.x86_64 3.99-11.u4b5.fc21 @rpmfusion-nonfree
mac-libs.x86_64 3.99-11.u4b5.fc21 @rpmfusion-nonfree
mate-applet-streamer.x86_64 0.1.3-1.fc21
@rpmfusion-free-updates
mencoder.x86_64 1.1-32.20150123svn.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
mpg123.x86_64 1.19.0-2.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
mplayer.x86_64 1.1-32.20150123svn.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
mplayer-common.x86_64 1.1-32.20150123svn.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
rpmfusion-free-release.noarch 21-1 installed
rpmfusion-nonfree-release.noarch 21-1 installed
staging-kmod-addons.noarch 3.18.2-1.fc21
@rpmfusion-free-updates
twolame-devel.x86_64 0.3.13-4.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
wxsvg.x86_64 1.5.3-1.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
@rpmfusion-free-updates<<<<< No package name????
@rpmfusion-free-updates <<<<< No Package name????
x265-devel.x86_64 1.2-6.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
x265-libs.x86_64 1.2-6.fc21 @rpmfusion-free-updates
xvidcore-devel.x86_64 1.3.2-6.fc21 @rpmfusion-free
I have no idea why there are two lines without a package name!!
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