Re: Crashes of tainted kernels

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On Tue, 2015-03-17 at 14:51 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> If you know the site already, why not just file the bug directly on
> that bugzilla? Why does it need to be automated?

As a general response, I'd say that:

People are more likely to make a bug report if it's not a protracted
exercise for them to do so.  And, if it's properly automated (actually
sends all the required data to be useful), the report might be much more
useful than some people would, otherwise, provide.

Having to find the right bugzilla, having to sign up, having to figure
out what to report on (which is horrible on an extremely slow website),
to look for possible existing bug reports the same as their own, trying
to work out if theirs is different or the same.  Having to work out how
to provide useful debugging information.  Making your PC more painful to
use by installing debugging packages...

Making manual bugzilla reports has been such a bastard that I'm loath to
ever go through it again.  Not to mention the experience of a fault
being reported, and being ignored.  In this (*) case, the fault was
observable by everyone, existed across several releases of Fedora, and
no effort could be observed into resolving it.

* I reported that if you tried to adjust sound volume with the mouse
wheel over a horizontally oriented slider, the sound went down when you
scrolled up, and vice versa.  As opposed to working in the way that you
expected, and how it worked if you were to use the mouse wheel over the
top of a vertically oriented slider.  That fault sat for YEARS, and I
saw no activity on the bug report other than a few other "me toos," and
automated responses after a prolonged time (e.g. when new Fedora
releases came out) that the matter would be closed if nobody responded
saying the fault still existed.

Yes, I'd made reports, before, that had had action taken.  But the utter
apathy about doing anything on this report, and seeing other people make
similar criticisms, just makes one think, "why bother?"

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