On 10/19/2014 04:05 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/20/14 03:06, jd1008 wrote:
On 10/18/2014 11:42 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 10/19/14 13:16, jd1008 wrote:
If the OP did go through the steps you enumerate, why would s/he be so surprised
by the automatic updates ? :) :) Very strange!!
The OP didn't do what you have suggested.
The OP is using GNOME and that is the behavior of GNOME, even in F20.
What I've told them to do is what is needed for GNOME.
There is nothing strange other than the assumptions that you've made.
Well, when I installed f20, I was NOT getting automatic updates.
I had to manually enable it.
So, I made no assumptions.
Yes you did. You were making the assumption that the OP did something similar to what you may have done. You looked it it from your point of view. Which, incidentally, we now know was opposite of what the OP wanted to achieve.
The op wanted to stop auto updates.
I presented how to disable update daemon if it were installed,
(which it seems it was, since it does the auto updates if it is
enabled), And I presented how to delete it if the OP wanted to
just put an end to it :)
What was your assumption the OP wanted to do besides stop auto updates?
The automatic downloading of updates using GNOME on F20 works just fine. During this thread, I tested it since I wanted to see how long it took before the downloads happened. It varies due to timers. But it works. If it didn't work for you, then you should have filed a bugzilla.
Sorry Ed, I never said the updates daemon did not / does not work.
I was only pointing out to the OP a couple of ways to stop the auto
updates via the updates daemon.
Also, having used yum erase, I have had catastrophic consequences,
because yum will remove dependencies also, which other packages
which you might not want removed.
For example, just try to
yum erase bash
and see what happens :) :)
It prompts if you really want to do it. You know that. Unless you're the type that puts -y in their yum commands there won't be any problems.
That's not the point Ed.
Take the case of the recent storm about the bash bug.
How do you remove it from the system so no one can take
advantage of that weakness? Using yum erase will blow away
everything. Using rpm -e --nodeps will blow away only bash.
It is the unexpected deletion of packages that the user did not
expect to be removed that I was addressing with regards to
using yum erase.
Your point isn't/wasn't clear.
Your assertion.
The point is "yum erase" won't erase bash. It isn't "dangerous" as you make it out to be.
It was your suggestion to use yum erase.
I was merely pointing out it's consequences.
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