-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/2014 06:33 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 04:30:11PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> There are plenty of complaints that can be *legitimately* >> leveled against systemd. The correct way to do this ... > > With all due respect, this isn't a matter of filing bug reports. > > I've been working on Unix since around 1980; I was teaching Unix > internals at Bell Labs in Naperville in 1982. I've discussed > Ritchie streams with Ritchie, and hacked the Unix kernel back then. > I knocked out cut and paste--maybe nothing that stunning, but it > cost me a lot when I did it. I know and understand what the > Unix--and, by extension, Linux--philosophy is. > > I've also worked on DOS, and Windows, since their inception, and > many other operating systems before and after both. I've seen some > sensible decisions--although with either DOS or Windows, I'm hard > pressed right now to think of them--and some really stupid ideas, > such as the Registry. > > Systemd is one of the stupid ideas. It flies in the face of > everything that makes sense in Unix or Linux, and incorporates some > of the most amazingly bad ideas Microsoft ever promulgated. A > single point of failure, an Swiss army knife of totally disparate > tasks incorporated in a single process just because we can... > I really wish people would stop repeating this falsehood. systemd is *not* a single process. It's a name for a collection of small processes that *collectively* are called systemd. There's no single point of failure that's significantly more problematic than pid 1 has ever been. > I didn't pay attention to this until recently; now that I've dug > into it a bit more, I'm both horrified and astonished that it's > reached the level of acceptance it has. This is an amazingly > terrible concept, with the unbelievable adjunct that it's been > accepted by major Linux distros. Unchecked, this could be the stake > in the heart of Linux. Those who don't know history are doomed to > repeat it. > > Sincerely, -- Dave Ihnat dihnat@xxxxxxxxxx > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlQTHEEACgkQeiVVYja6o6M0vACdHSRv0ELVID86oY+UWmqXyZUw 1koAnRRyyw8uo3OpFmuiJKcTeZSEOCX/ =eV2u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
