On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> You might not need to use all of the systemd tools but its tools >> aren't independent. > > That is similar to how optional features are handled in many collections. > If you use some features, they might pull in other requirements but the > features themselves are optional. >> >> For example, Ubuntu patches logind in order to use >> it with upstart rather than with systemd. > > systemd explicitly documented which interfaces they consider independent and > which ones they don't and I linked to the document earlier. Ubuntu's use of > logind is backporting + reimplementation of some interfaces using a shim and > they are moving away from it to systemd itself since the reimplementation is > lagging behind in features and functionality and the Debian move to systemd > made it easier for them to follow that path. I understand and agree but nonetheless maintain that we shouldn't call systemd a "collection of tools with a shared codebase where most of the tools are optional" since the systemd executables aren't as independent of one another as those of util-linux and coreutils. Although you more or less hint at this with "with a shared codebase", most people don't. (I use Ubuntu 14.10 on my laptop and systemd 204 is available so by the time that it's released systemd-shim might be relegated to 14.04 LTS.) -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
