Re: F20 Where's my system mail?

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Heinz Diehl wrote:

>> Received: from localhost (alfred.gayleard.eu [127.0.0.1]) by
>> alfred.gayleard.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4C622D57 for
>> <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:15:24 +0200 (CEST)
>> Received: from alfred.gayleard.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost
>> (alfred.gayleard.eu [127.0.0.1]) FrqMz92sTpCb for
>> <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:15:02 +0200 (CEST)
>> Received: from alfred.gayleard.eu (alfred.gayleard.eu [127.0.0.1]) by
>> alfred.gayleard.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id
[5E6222A05A for <tim@localhost>; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:15:01 +0200 (CEST)]
> 
>> Which of these describes where "mail is sent to"?
> 
> None. This is why they are called "Received:".

Thanks for sticking to this.
But in an earlier posting you said
------------------------
> With mydestination you specify your local domain(s). Example:
>
>  mydestination = fritha.org
>
> All mail handled by postfix which goes to .fritha.org will be
> delivered locally.
------------------------

When I said "mail is sent to" above I should have said "which goes to"
as I was simply quoting your explanation above.
But I'm still puzzled by mydestination.

In my case I've actually added everything postfix could possibly want: 
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost, $mydomain

But what is fritha.org in your case?
Is that your domain?
So could you equally well have written
mydestination = $mydomain
which you presumably defined earlier?

>> I actually get all my email by fetchmail from various mail servers.
>> None of my mail is addressed by the sender to "*.gayleard.eu".
> 
> It's postfix which  to you. Fetchmail
> connects to it via localhost. Look here:
> 
>  Received: from localhost (alfred.gayleard.eu [127.0.0.1]) by
>  alfred.gayleard.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4C622D57 for
>  [....]
[<tim@localhost>; Thu, 17 Apr 2014 14:15:01 +0200 (CEST)]

Ok, I've added the missing line.
Am I rignt in thinking that fetchmail actually passes the email 
on to postfix's sendmail-emulator?
I'm not quite clear how localhost comes into this.

> Your local machine which claims to be "alfred.gayleard.eu" and which
> has the IP 127.0.0.1 has received mail for "for" (which your header
> lacks - a simple c&p fail).
> 
>> So it seems to me these headers must be added by postfix
>> or possibly by fetchmail.
> 
> It's postfix. Look again, it says "by alfred.gayleard.eu (Postfix)..."
> 
>> But if postfix has added these headers it doesn't seem to make sense
>> for postfix to ask if *.gayleard.eu is "mydestination".
> 
> It makes perfect sense, because this is the domain your postfix is
> the final destination for. Postfix will attempt to deliver all mail to
> this domain locally.

Ok, I think I see what you are saying.
Postfix has delivered the email to alfred.gayleard.eu
(which happens to be the hostname of the machine postfix is running on)
because I specified this as mydestination - 
and then postfix has added one or two headers to say that it has done this?

Actually, I wouldn't say that postfix "finally delivers these mails" to me,
since I'm also running amavis and dovecot,
and the mail finishes up on ~/maildir
from which I collect it with KMail on my laptop.
 
-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland


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