Arthur Dent <misc.lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have read this page: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail Yes, Fedora's great plan of no default sendmail basically means that they simply do no longer install sendmail (default MTA). That's all. All software (crond, raid-check, logwatch etc.) still sends mail, but now it just gets silently deleted. A good concept for system design would have taken into account that software needs new configuration on how to deal with the information that was sent out via mail previously. There's no point in still having all software configured to send out mail but not installing an MTA. That doesn't solve the problem. > Without a functioning MTA how can I now achieve the same result? > Although I can ssh into the box, and I do often check logs etc, it is > reassuring to know when something has happened I would get an email, and > the regular output in email-form from logwatch was something I would > check every day. > > Can I get this functionality back without the pain of configuring > postfix or (shudder) sendmail? If so how? Fedora still offers MTA software, eg sendmail, in their repositories (so you get all security updates, bug fixes etc.) After your fresh installation of F20 you could simply run "yum install sendmail" and have the exact same setup as all the years before. However, I agree, that having a full-blown MTA on a desktop PC is somewhat weird. I've tried to go with "msmtp" (supported by Fedora). It's basically a "mail forwarder". It offers a "sendmail"-style binary and forwards all input to a preconfigured SMTP host (each user can have its own configuration). At first, "msmtp" looked like a good solution, but the configuration overhead was much higher than putting a smart-host in sendmail.cf. Finally, I got msmtp working but I'm still not really happy (it doesn't rewrite destination addresses for aliased forwards, and that's a big problem with today's spam filters), so I will revert to sendmail in F21. Alternatively, you could install procmail and reconfigure all software to use procmail instead of sendmail to handle mail. Procmail allows delivery to local mailboxes if that's all you need. In my setup, I don't want local mail on my desktop PCs (that's indeed useless) but have all mail forwarded to a SMTP smart-host (where my primary mail-account is located). Another alternative is mailx. It even allows for remote delivery. Sounds really cool. But totally fails on SMTP servers with self-signed certificates. That's uncool. In any case, reconfiguring all software to use something different than the old-school "sendmail" binary requires more time than just installing (and configuring) sendmail itself. As long as Fedora still officially supports sendmail in their repositories, all is well. Greetings, Andreas -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org