Re: installer failures, was: Fedora Present and Future

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On 22 March 2014 20:05, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Ten years of failure installing Fedora. You should make your own t-shirt.

Yeah, go me.

Actually, no, I don't consider that my job is to do the developers'
work for them. My job, the one I was being paid for, was to advise
people interested in trying Linux what distros to look at.

E.g.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1003013/inquirer-guide-free-operating-systems

Or a few years later this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2010/06/21/reg_linux_guide_1/

You will note that my verdict is not positive concerning Fedora and I
tend to suggest people use Ubuntu or failing that CentOS.

> In those ten years, you're still unfamiliar with the installer's bug reporting mechanism?

Yeah, oddly, I remain unfamiliar with the components of an OS that I
can't get to install. Funny, that.

> In lieu of the fact you have a 0% install success rate installing Fedora on baremetal, aren't you suspicious? Curious?

Some of all of them, sure, but my time is limited and my job in the
exercise was to find the best tool for various jobs. If you're
comparing a dozen  cars, you don't spend a week trying to find out why
one of them won't start - you just note that it didn't complete the
test and move on.

> Have you inquired with anyone about how to get more information from the installer to possibly find out why you've had a decade of install failures, on just Fedora? Are you unfamiliar with the installer's rather substantial logging feature, always enabled, with easily recovered logs? Have you looked at them, or had anyone else look at them? What was the cause of the failure?

Nope. See above. "Failed to complete tests". Actually, "failed to even
start tests".



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