On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 08:34:55PM +0100, lee wrote: > I`m somewhat surprised that the feeling of apparent desinterest of the > makers of Fedora in what its users think seems kinda widespread under > its users. Perhaps it`s a wrong impression; if not, it may be something > for Fedora.next to address. I think it's unfair impression. Some of the developers only care about their own area, and perhaps the users of that thing but not the project overall, sure. But overall, we care very much. The catch is: it's hard to get a good sense of what the userbase as a whole thinks. It's easy to conflate that with "care about what some users are repeating very loudly on a mailing list". That's certainly _some_ input, but it's a skewed view of the actual world. Many of the better possible ways to measure are very expensive, but overall, there is one which is straightforward and effective: users who represent a large enough community will have some percentage of people willing and able to contribute by becoming Fedora developers, and those people guide the project through their actions. That's why we have Gnome, KDE, LXDE, and MATE-Compiz desktop spins -- and, pointedly, not a fvwm one. If you really think that this is the best course for Fedora, I encourage you to step up and create one. (See <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Process>.) Or, if that's not really you're thing, you could step back and focus on what you are suggesting is a bigger problem -- getting user input into Fedora. How could that be done better? Surveys? More user testing? An active "User Feedback SIG"? -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org