On 22 March 2014 16:55, Tom Horsley <horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 16:40:36 +0000 > Liam Proven wrote: > >> Meantime, for further Fedora eval, it's going in a VirtualBox. Sad, >> but that's all it seems able to handle. > > Actually, that's the key to installing on disk in a sensibly > created partition layout: Install in a virtual machine 1st, > then copy the VM disk image to a real disk and fiddle with > the grub config and fstab. I install that way all the time > now since the new installer appeared, and find it actually > make things lots more convenient since I don't have to have > the machine down while I'm doing the install. [Nod] I might try that. Assuming that I actually like the OS enough to want to commit it to the bare metal, of course. ;-) But if this is SOP, then that to me says that the installer is broken to a laughable degree. For instance, many OSes can't handle the PC primary+secondary partitioning scheme. This means that they need their own primary partition, which is a *major* limiting factor if you have a multiboot PC - you only get 4 primaries per drive, and if you need logical partitions, then one of those primaries must be an extended partition, so you only get 3. Primaries are a precious, scarce resource, and that means that OSes that demand primaries - *BSD, Solaris, BeOS/Haiku, etc. - are not good citizens when it comes to multiboot machines. But Linux has always been the opposite. It's the eternal secondary OS, running on machines designed for other OSes - primarily Windows, of course, but also on hardware designed to run Mac OS X, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, etc. etc. If there's any OS that runs on more platforms than Linux it can only be NetBSD and it is a real minority OS for a handful of users. Linux copes with /everyone's/ partitioning systems. Apple, Sun, PC, GUID, it doesn't care, it just works with it. Fedora, it seems, does not. It wants things done its way, or perhaps as a secondary OS on a Windows machine. Otherwise, you're quite possibly out of luck. For one of the big, famous, heavily-promoted "outreach" distros, one that is famous, I submit that this is not a good approach. Just my 2¢'s worth! -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven@xxxxxxxxx * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven@xxxxxxxxxxx * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org