Re: Fedora Present and Future: a Fedora.next 2014 Update (Part I, “Why?”)

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On 21 March 2014 15:19, lee <lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>

>> I was at a large cloud conference a while ago, and almost nobody was
>> using Fedora, and so I asked people why they chose the distribution
>> they are building their stuff on, and why they didn’t choose
>> Fedora. Almost universally, the response wasn’t “What I am using is
>> great!” — it was “Oh, I don’t care. I just picked this, and that’s
>> what I’m using and it’s fine.”
>
> I`m not one of these people.  Thinking like that, they don`t need a
> Linux distribution; they can as well use Windoze or Macos.
>

Sigh.
1. "Windows" not "Windoze"
2. If we're being picky "MacOS"
3. Most Linux distros are *much* more similar to each other than they
are to Windows or Mac. I use about three different distros at work and
have another two different ones at home (though one of those is a Pi,
maybe count as a half). I don't find this particularly confusing. If
they get on okay with the desktop on whatever they're using then more
power to them.

>> Even if there really are a lot of interesting things going on, people
>> who are trying to actually do things with the distribution don’t
>> attach much importance to them.
>
> Not paying attention to the soft- and hardware that is the basis of what
> you`re actually doing is a recipe for failure, and for making things
> difficult on yourself.
>
> One thing Fedora shines with (so far) is reliability, and reliability is
> one of the requirements I have.  I have been using Debian for almost
> twenty years until they messed up badly with their brokenarch.  Doing
> that put Debian out of the question once and for all because they failed
> that requirement miserably beyond believe.
>
> Please do not make the same mistake with Fedora.  Switching to another
> distribution is a painful process.
>

I'm kind of interested to know what your use case is that makes
switching distros more painful than fixing a broken install. The only
guess I can make is multiple systems.


>> In turn, this leads to a shift in the balance between the effort to
>> get software into a distribution and the reward of doing so. It used
>> to be that if you had open source software, and you could convince the
>> distros to get your get your software into a distro, that’s how you
>> knew that you had arrived.
>
> I have always wondered how people manage to create packages, for Debian
> or Fedora.  I looked into it because I would like to provide packages,
> and I found it requires an insurmountable effort.  You start with "I
> have written this software" and get to "I would like that ppl use it,
> and to make that easy, I`d like to make a package".  Then you try to
> find out how to do that and that`s where it ends:  It`s just too
> difficult.
>
> Instead, you put your software on github.
>

If you see no value in packaging I'm surprised you aren't using a
roll-your-own distro instead. It sounds like that would be a much
better match for your requirements of control over everything on the
machine and a minimalist system.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk
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