On 21 March 2014 15:19, lee <lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> I was at a large cloud conference a while ago, and almost nobody was >> using Fedora, and so I asked people why they chose the distribution >> they are building their stuff on, and why they didn’t choose >> Fedora. Almost universally, the response wasn’t “What I am using is >> great!” — it was “Oh, I don’t care. I just picked this, and that’s >> what I’m using and it’s fine.” > > I`m not one of these people. Thinking like that, they don`t need a > Linux distribution; they can as well use Windoze or Macos. > Sigh. 1. "Windows" not "Windoze" 2. If we're being picky "MacOS" 3. Most Linux distros are *much* more similar to each other than they are to Windows or Mac. I use about three different distros at work and have another two different ones at home (though one of those is a Pi, maybe count as a half). I don't find this particularly confusing. If they get on okay with the desktop on whatever they're using then more power to them. >> Even if there really are a lot of interesting things going on, people >> who are trying to actually do things with the distribution don’t >> attach much importance to them. > > Not paying attention to the soft- and hardware that is the basis of what > you`re actually doing is a recipe for failure, and for making things > difficult on yourself. > > One thing Fedora shines with (so far) is reliability, and reliability is > one of the requirements I have. I have been using Debian for almost > twenty years until they messed up badly with their brokenarch. Doing > that put Debian out of the question once and for all because they failed > that requirement miserably beyond believe. > > Please do not make the same mistake with Fedora. Switching to another > distribution is a painful process. > I'm kind of interested to know what your use case is that makes switching distros more painful than fixing a broken install. The only guess I can make is multiple systems. >> In turn, this leads to a shift in the balance between the effort to >> get software into a distribution and the reward of doing so. It used >> to be that if you had open source software, and you could convince the >> distros to get your get your software into a distro, that’s how you >> knew that you had arrived. > > I have always wondered how people manage to create packages, for Debian > or Fedora. I looked into it because I would like to provide packages, > and I found it requires an insurmountable effort. You start with "I > have written this software" and get to "I would like that ppl use it, > and to make that easy, I`d like to make a package". Then you try to > find out how to do that and that`s where it ends: It`s just too > difficult. > > Instead, you put your software on github. > If you see no value in packaging I'm surprised you aren't using a roll-your-own distro instead. It sounds like that would be a much better match for your requirements of control over everything on the machine and a minimalist system. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org