On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 11:09:31 -0700 Joe Zeff <joe@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 03/13/2014 07:04 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > Making RPMs and yum more efficient is great, don't get me wrong. > > Making them faster != making them more efficient if they end up not > updating everything because they're using obsolete metadata. That's > just pushing the time needed for the upgrade into the future and > pretending it doesn't exist. Well to be fair, updating the machine is not the only thing one can do with yum. I often find myself querying about a package with "yum info packagename" or listing/removing installed packages, etc. And each time it's a major pain to wait for the metadata to get updated, especially since it is completely unnecessary for those operations. So I can see a valid point for usecases where you don't want to update metadata every time you run yum. Besides, keeping the machine up-to-date is something that should be done automatically in the background, by cron, PackageKit or otherwise, and the ordinary user should not need to be bothered with the metadata. Sooner or later metadata will get refreshed and updates will flow to the machine. I really don't see a difference if it happens today or tomorrow. And finally, for the enthusiast cli folks (like myself) who yum update manually, inspect what is about to be updated before proceeding, etc., it should not be a big problem to yum clean metadata immediately before yum update. So I don't see a very valid case for the old yum behavior anyway. And the increase in speed with dnf can be substantial. Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
