"Lars E. Pettersson" <lars@xxxxxxxx> writes: > On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote: >> What is the purpose of this log duplication? When systemd has its own >> logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their >> contents to syslogd. > > One could also ask why systemd duplicates the logging formerly only > done by syslogd. > > For me looking through my ASCII-based text-logs created by syslogd is > far faster than using journalctl. Things that takes over 25 minutes > with journalctl, only takes 66 seconds grepping the syslogd logs. (see > bug 1047719, that no-one seems to care about) > > ASCII-based logs can be read by anybody using any editor. To read the > journal you need journalctl, or similar program, as the journal is > binary and not readily readable. > > Another reason is that there still exist programs/daemons/etc. that > rely on the logs in /var/log. > > If you do not like syslogd, well F20 does not ship it anymore... What I don´t like is unnecessary double logging and hidden log files that cannot be read without special software, like binary ones. How do I disable these binary logs and have everything logged with syslogd? Most of the logging goes there anyway. How do they think users will ever get a working system with no logging and not even an mta installed? -- Fedora release 20 (Heisenbug) -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org