Re: what just happened (time went backwards?)

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"Lars E. Pettersson" <lars@xxxxxxxx> writes:

> On 02/26/14 19:23, lee wrote:
>> What is the purpose of this log duplication?  When systemd has its own
>> logs, it doesn´t seem necessary to duplicate them by sending their
>> contents to syslogd.
>
> One could also ask why systemd duplicates the logging formerly only
> done by syslogd.
>
> For me looking through my ASCII-based text-logs created by syslogd is
> far faster than using journalctl. Things that takes over 25 minutes
> with journalctl, only takes 66 seconds grepping the syslogd logs. (see
> bug 1047719, that no-one seems to care about)
>
> ASCII-based logs can be read by anybody using any editor. To read the
> journal you need journalctl, or similar program, as the journal is
> binary and not readily readable.
>
> Another reason is that there still exist programs/daemons/etc. that
> rely on the logs in /var/log.
>
> If you do not like syslogd, well F20 does not ship it anymore...

What I don´t like is unnecessary double logging and hidden log files
that cannot be read without special software, like binary ones.

How do I disable these binary logs and have everything logged with
syslogd?  Most of the logging goes there anyway.

How do they think users will ever get a working system with no logging
and not even an mta installed?


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