Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

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On 01/05/2014 11:50 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:31 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

No. IMO, this is just a defect of RH/Fedora based and other Linux distros. They have not been able to provide a proper, out-of-the-box configuration.

If they had done so, everybody was using it.

So this long running defect is just *itching* to be fixed so badly that the decision to drop installing an MTA by default was about to happen on the precipice of a proper OOB configuration implementation being ready for wide spread deployment?


Apples and oranges. Correct, most of these OSes do not support this feature, primarily because these OSes have been designed as single-seat/single-users OSes and did not take multi-user/network-wide system-management into account.

Windows has been designed for multi-user for over a decade, its origin as single user isn't relevant.
Win is multi-user in the sense as it allows more than one-login.

The actual difference to Linux is: Linux basically is a server OS, which also can be deployed as a desktop and can also be deployed as a single-user/single-seat OS.

With Win, the situation is converse: It once was is a single-user desktop client-OS, which meanwhile allows some limited "multi-user/server" uses.

Restricting the context to just Fedora, by default it is a desktop OS with a GUI.
That's what some people around here want to make it.

Make it? It's been this way for what a decade?
Correct, Fedora has not be been this way and except that some people do not seem to take non-single-user/single-seat configurations into account in Fedora-development, Fedora fortunately still isn't.

However this is *not* what Linux is, nor is it what I want it to be.

And this is what's so great about F/OSS, you get to yum install <mta> or whatever you want to make it whatever you want.
Right, you've got it! Linux (comprising Fedora) is a "construction kit", and is it *not* a restricted to be used as mere "Desktop OS".
Deploying it as a desktop is just a subset of possible use-cases.

In this light, replacing "mail" as notification mechanism is a substantial functional regression in generality of deployment.

Ralf


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