Re: F20 - Unintended consequences of no default MTA - How best to fix

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Hi Pete,

You seem to be well-versed with journalctl.  I hope you don't mind my
asking a few questions.

On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 09:07:29PM -0700, Pete Travis wrote:
> 
> $ su -c 'crontab -l'
> * * * * * echo "TEST TEST"
> $ crontab -l
>  * * * * LARSHAPPY="no"; if [[ "$LARSHAPPY" == "no" ]]; then echo -e
> "This isn't the same.\nNew Things are Different.\nSome people like the
> old thing.";fi
> 
> $ journalctl SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=CROND -f  #filtered for convenience

How do you know which IDENTIFIER to use?  I could guess it should be
CROND if I were to look at the output of journalctl in this case; but is
there any canonical way to find this out?  Or is it just the unit file
name?

> But wait! These things could get all mixed up on a busy machine, you
> say! Let's take a closer look at a message:
> 
> MESSAGE=(pete) CMDOUT (New Things are Different.)
>     _AUDIT_SESSION=83
>     _SYSTEMD_CGROUP=/user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-83.scope
>     _SYSTEMD_SESSION=83
>     _SYSTEMD_UNIT=session-83.scope
>     SYSLOG_PID=8141
>     _PID=8141
>     _SOURCE_REALTIME_TIMESTAMP=1388719561402125
> Thu 2014-01-02 20:26:01.402133 MST
> [s=04f24177eb10446c94ea389f0e5adb2f;i=49d85;b=0557929cbde247928f945d8b53a6e067;m=b529d73d;t=4ef0878266935;x=ade119e61f79d8c4]
>     PRIORITY=6
>     _UID=0
>     _MACHINE_ID=0fb42f5d126e4f4e8b94045b4652c0f2
>     _HOSTNAME=ruminant-randomuser-lan
>     _CAP_EFFECTIVE=1fffffffff
>     _TRANSPORT=syslog
>     SYSLOG_FACILITY=9
>     _COMM=crond
>     _EXE=/usr/sbin/crond
>     _SELINUX_CONTEXT=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>     _GID=1000
>     _AUDIT_LOGINUID=1000
>     _SYSTEMD_OWNER_UID=1000
>     _SYSTEMD_SLICE=user-1000.slice
>     SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=CROND
>     _CMDLINE=/usr/sbin/CROND -n
>     _BOOT_ID=0557929cbde247928f945d8b53a6e067

How did you get this output; I'm confused.

> I'll agree that this isn't as *simple* as banging out a four letter word
> and reading message, but the journal can provide context, too. If

Could you please point me to some documentation that explains how a user
can use this?  Some examples beyond SYSTEMD_UNIT=bla would be great.  I
find it very difficult to use journalctl effectively without knowing any
of the internal details you are using in the examples.  Is there some
discussion on this that I can read for my understanding?

> 
> $ journalctl SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=CROND _AUDIT_SESSION=83 -b
> --show-cursor|tail -1
> - -- cursor:
> s=04f24177eb10446c94ea389f0e5adb2f;i=49d85;b=0557929cbde247928f945d8b53a6e067;m=b529d73d;t=4ef0878266935;x=ade119e61f79d8c4

It is not clear to me what is meant by cursor here (I read
journalctl(1)); moreover I could not find an option to journalctl called
`--show-cursor'.

If you don't mind could you share some of your journalctl understanding
on another thread I started?

<https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/444479.html>

Thanks a lot for your time.

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

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