On 03.01.2014 18:28, Kevin Martin wrote: > On 01/03/2014 10:58 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: >> On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote: >>> On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: >>>> On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote: >>>>> This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system. >>>>> >>>>> Only once has this produced an update for me: >>>>> >>>>> [root@box10 bobg]# dnf update >>>>> Resolving dependencies >>>>> --> Starting dependency resolution >>>>> --> Finished dependency resolution >>>>> Dependencies resolved. >>>>> Nothing to do. >>>>> >>>>> But yum update a moment later: >>>>> >>>>> Transaction Summary >>>>> ========================================================================================================================================================================================= >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Install 2 Packages >>>>> Upgrade 23 Packages >>>>> >>>>> Total download size: 45 M >>>>> Is this ok [y/d/N]: y >>>>> >>>>> And it went through to complete this morning's update. >>>>> >>>>> What is wrong? DNF man page shows an update command ,,, >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hey Bob, >>>> >>>> that's expected: >>>> >>>> http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/ >>>> >>>> Ales >>> >>> That seems counterproductive. If there are updates to be had then dnf needs to find them and apply them. Blaming metadata timing >>> to result in no updates is a dodge and needs to be corrected. If not seeing available updates is not considered "a real update >>> problem" then what is? Yet another place where dnf will need to improve before becoming a yum replacement. >> >> You can get similar "inconsistency" with just yum on two different computers sitting under your desk because they are on different >> metadata expiry timer, and can also end up using different mirrors. >> >> - Panu - >> > Agreed, but if dnf is expecting to be a yum replacement then shouldn't it do updates *better* than yum? What's the point if not to > have an improved tool? If it's just going to be the same old thing then why bother? > > Kevin > There is an ongoing discussion on devel@ group about dnf being 100% compatible with yum. Some people say that it should behave exactly like yum (I think including all current "bugs".) I don't know if you should expect any improvements in dnf other than speed, they're just to controversial for some people afraid of changes. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org