Re: dnf update -

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On 01/03/2014 10:58 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> On 01/03/2014 05:04 PM, Kevin Martin wrote:
>> On 01/03/2014 08:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
>>> On 01/03/2014 03:47 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>>>> This is a Fedora-20 64 bit XFCE system.
>>>>
>>>> Only once has this produced an update for me:
>>>>
>>>> [root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
>>>> Resolving dependencies
>>>> --> Starting dependency resolution
>>>> --> Finished dependency resolution
>>>> Dependencies resolved.
>>>> Nothing to do.
>>>>
>>>> But yum update a moment later:
>>>>
>>>> Transaction Summary
>>>> =========================================================================================================================================================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Install   2 Packages
>>>> Upgrade  23 Packages
>>>>
>>>> Total download size: 45 M
>>>> Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
>>>>
>>>> And it went through to complete this morning's update.
>>>>
>>>> What is wrong?  DNF man page shows  an update command ,,,
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hey Bob,
>>>
>>> that's expected:
>>>
>>> http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/
>>>
>>> Ales
>>
>> That seems counterproductive.  If there are updates to be had then dnf needs to find them and apply them.  Blaming metadata timing
>> to result in no updates is a dodge and needs to be corrected.  If not seeing available updates is not considered "a real update
>> problem" then what is?  Yet another place where dnf will need to improve before becoming a yum replacement.
> 
> You can get similar "inconsistency" with just yum on two different computers sitting under your desk because they are on different
> metadata expiry timer, and can also end up using different mirrors.
> 
>     - Panu -
> 
Agreed, but if dnf is expecting to be a yum replacement then shouldn't it do updates *better* than yum?  What's the point if not to
have an improved tool?  If it's just going to be the same old thing then why bother?

Kevin
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