On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 01:29:46PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2014, at 12:55 PM, "Lars E. Pettersson" <lars@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 01/02/2014 08:45 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >>>> Is there something you expect to see that is missing from the journal? > >>> > >>> Yes, the output of cron, that is not a part of the journal output. > >> > >> Then cron is broken. > > > > cron by default sends the output to root > > > > $ head /etc/crontab > > SHELL=/bin/bash > > PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin > > MAILTO=root > > > > From 'man cron': > > > > "When executing commands, any output is mailed to the owner of the crontab (or to the user specified in the MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists)." > > > > It also states: > > > > "Any job output can also be sent to syslog by using the -s option." > > > > The problem with that option is that the output from cron can voluminous, and voluminous messages are better suited as mails. > > It seems that cron could have log levels like most other processes do, > with a sensible default, and send that to the journal - while tagging > each message sent with a proper priority, so that it can be properly > filtered with journalctl -p -u. > Does systemd-journald have capability to notify a user? If not, please do not suggest sending output to the journal as a valid alternative. Other than the contents of the message, system mail is also a form of notification. I have used system mail under many capacities very successfully on a variety of systems to get a variety of notifications very reliably. I see logs/journal as a passive tool, system mail or other forms of notifications are active tools. System mail fills a very unique need, where it can be active and yet be very verbose unlike other notification systems. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
